Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Hui Dr. W & All, Dr W said: > I found one source that gave jin bu huan as an alternative name; thus > the current conversation. I'm pretty sure at this point that Qian Ceng > Ta is not jin bu huan. thx, dr.w WWW sources suggest that BOTH names are synonymous. For example: http://www.healthnp.com/product-1.asp?kind=c & id=12 & http://63.195.84.232/huperzia_serrata.htm say: Qiancengta (`thousand-layers pagoda´); aka: Jinbuhuan (`more valuable than gold´); Aisong; Changbingqiancengta; Qiancengye; Qianjincao; Qicunjin; Shanzhicao; Shejiaocao; Shezushishan; Huperziae serratae Hb; Lycopodii serrati Hb; Chinese Club Moss; Has: huperzine A (saponin), serratine, serratanidine, serratinidine, tohogenol, tohogeninol, tohogenine; Fxs: (1) Diuretic~mild; Antioedema~mild to reduce swelling dt water retention; (2) huperzine A is ACh-esterase inhibitor; more effective ACh-esterase inhibitor than tacrine, galanthamine & physostigmine (Antilirium); may reduce symptoms of myasthenia gravis & Alzheimer's disease [drugs used in Alzheimer's disease include ACh inhibitors Tacrine & Donepezil, which increase available acetycholine & ease symptoms but side effects include nausea, emesis, anxiety; also Tacrine is LV Toxin~serious; Huperzine A has not those side effects]; (3) Antagonise effects mediated through GABA receptors; (4) Prevent organophosphate poisoning; Indications: Alzheimer's disease (senile dementia, Zaolaoxing Chidai); myasthenia gravis (heavy muscle weakness disease; Zhong Jiwuli Zheng); pneumonia (Feiyan), LU abscess (Feiyong), haematemesis (Tuxue), haemorrhoids (Zhichuang), haematochezia (Bianxue), physical injury (Dapu Shang); swelling dt Toxin (Zhongdu), schizophrenia; Dose: 10-20g; As Topical: qs (Waiyong Shiliang ) use supernatant of cooked Hb / use powder as Topical to infected area; also see Yinyanghuo; ACh-esterase: an enzyme in blood & tissues that catalyzes hydrolysis of acetylcholine (ACh) neurotransmitter; Myasthenia gravis: dt auto-immune dysfunction; whereby body produces antibodies that deactivate ACh receptors on muscle cells. These receptors are situated at end of muscles. They receive secretion (ACh) of endings of nerves & create reaction. When antibodies destroy ACh receptors, functions of muscles becomes impaired. early affected parts of body include eyelid muscles, eyeball muscles (double visions), facial muscles, swallowing muscles & most serious one is respiratory muscles & eventually resulting in paralysis & respiratory failure which is life threatening; Organophosphates: used as pesticides & " nerve gas " (chemical weapons); they act by suppressing ACh- esterase permanently; Best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Hi Phil, Thanks!! I believe we now have a definitive answer. Regards, dr.w , " " < wrote: > > Hui Dr. W & All, > > Dr W said: > > I found one source that gave jin bu huan as an alternative name; thus > > the current conversation. I'm pretty sure at this point that Qian Ceng > > Ta is not jin bu huan. thx, dr.w > > WWW sources suggest that BOTH names are synonymous. For example: > > http://www.healthnp.com/product-1.asp?kind=c & id=12 & > http://63.195.84.232/huperzia_serrata.htm say: > > Qiancengta (`thousand-layers pagoda´); aka: Jinbuhuan (`more valuable than > gold´); Aisong; Changbingqiancengta; Qiancengye; Qianjincao; Qicunjin; > Shanzhicao; Shejiaocao; Shezushishan; Huperziae serratae Hb; Lycopodii > serrati Hb; Chinese Club Moss; Has: huperzine A (saponin), serratine, > serratanidine, serratinidine, tohogenol, tohogeninol, tohogenine; Fxs: (1) > Diuretic~mild; Antioedema~mild to reduce swelling dt water retention; (2) > huperzine A is ACh-esterase inhibitor; more effective ACh-esterase inhibitor > than tacrine, galanthamine & physostigmine (Antilirium); may reduce > symptoms of myasthenia gravis & Alzheimer's disease [drugs used in > Alzheimer's disease include ACh inhibitors Tacrine & Donepezil, which > increase available acetycholine & ease symptoms but side effects include > nausea, emesis, anxiety; also Tacrine is LV Toxin~serious; Huperzine A has > not those side effects]; (3) Antagonise effects mediated through GABA > receptors; (4) Prevent organophosphate poisoning; Indications: Alzheimer's > disease (senile dementia, Zaolaoxing Chidai); myasthenia gravis (heavy > muscle weakness disease; Zhong Jiwuli Zheng); pneumonia (Feiyan), LU > abscess (Feiyong), haematemesis (Tuxue), haemorrhoids (Zhichuang), > haematochezia (Bianxue), physical injury (Dapu Shang); swelling dt Toxin > (Zhongdu), schizophrenia; Dose: 10-20g; As Topical: qs (Waiyong Shiliang > ) use supernatant of cooked Hb / use powder as Topical to infected area; > also see Yinyanghuo; ACh-esterase: an enzyme in blood & tissues that > catalyzes hydrolysis of acetylcholine (ACh) neurotransmitter; Myasthenia > gravis: dt auto-immune dysfunction; whereby body produces antibodies that > deactivate ACh receptors on muscle cells. These receptors are situated at > end of muscles. They receive secretion (ACh) of endings of nerves & create > reaction. When antibodies destroy ACh receptors, functions of muscles > becomes impaired. early affected parts of body include eyelid muscles, > eyeball muscles (double visions), facial muscles, swallowing muscles & > most serious one is respiratory muscles & eventually resulting in paralysis & > respiratory failure which is life threatening; Organophosphates: used as > pesticides & " nerve gas " (chemical weapons); they act by suppressing ACh- > esterase permanently; > > Best regards, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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