Thoughts and reflections on herbs for Bone Marrow suppression

[Guest guest]

Dear Collagues

 

 

 

I would like to have your thoughts and reflections on the following:

 

 

 

For a few weeks I have treated a patient with a bone marrow that does not

work. He has had this problem for several years and to survive needs to

renew his blood by getting new blood every second or third week.

 

 

 

When I first meet him, I did a pattern discrimination and not surprisingly

came up with a mixed pattern of blood defiency with SP qi defiency, SP not

controlling the blood and an underlying KID yang def.

 

 

 

For the first two weeks I used a modified version of Si Wu Tang + He shou wu

and E Jiao, with some additional herbs to strengthen Kid yang (trying to

improve the WBC since it was as low as 1200 x 10^9/L) and the SP. After

these two weeks I changed the prescription to a modified version of Gui Pi

Tang with additional herbs for the blood (as above) and once again Kid yang.

This change because the patients had a very low thrombocyt count

(Thrombocytopenia) and a lot of small bleedings under the skin.

 

 

 

So far so good, or at least that was what I thought....since I started to

treated this patient, his blood values (Hb, RBC, WBC, Thrombocyts) has DROOP

considerable and he now needs to change his blood every week. I can not

really understand this, so thoughts and reflections from all of you would be

most enlightening! By the way, he does not use any medications what so ever.

 

 

 

BR Carl Wallmark

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Carl,

 

A couple of thoughts and questions: First of all, Chen and Chen brings down a

study that " Ci Wu Jia was effecting in increasing white blood cell counts in

84.2% of 43 cancer patients who had bone marrow suppression following chemo and

radiation. " Second, both Chen and I recall Bensky both mention that Ji Xue Teng

has been successful in Neutropenia as well as increasing the RBC.

Now the questions: You didn't mention anything about heat, whether excess or

deficient. Is there any evidence of it? Finally, have you considered analyzing

his diet and considering whether any food may be exascerbating and toxifying him

to an individual hyper-sensitivity?

 

All the best,

 

Yehuda

 

Carl <carlhenryk.wallmark wrote:

Dear Collagues

 

I would like to have your thoughts and reflections on the following:

 

For a few weeks I have treated a patient with a bone marrow that does not

work. He has had this problem for several years and to survive needs to

renew his blood by getting new blood every second or third week.

 

When I first meet him, I did a pattern discrimination and not surprisingly

came up with a mixed pattern of blood defiency with SP qi defiency, SP not

controlling the blood and an underlying KID yang def.

 

For the first two weeks I used a modified version of Si Wu Tang + He shou wu

and E Jiao, with some additional herbs to strengthen Kid yang (trying to

improve the WBC since it was as low as 1200 x 10^9/L) and the SP. After

these two weeks I changed the prescription to a modified version of Gui Pi

Tang with additional herbs for the blood (as above) and once again Kid yang.

This change because the patients had a very low thrombocyt count

(Thrombocytopenia) and a lot of small bleedings under the skin.

 

So far so good, or at least that was what I thought....since I started to

treated this patient, his blood values (Hb, RBC, WBC, Thrombocyts) has DROOP

considerable and he now needs to change his blood every week. I can not

really understand this, so thoughts and reflections from all of you would be

most enlightening! By the way, he does not use any medications what so ever.

 

BR Carl Wallmark

 

 

[Guest guest]

I am also interested in your experience with this patient and any others

who have worked with this type of blood disorder. A patient with

hemachromatosis came in recently. He only wanted infrequent

acupuncture. With that alone, I didn't feel we could address the blood

much. He draws his own blood and it eventually is balanced. A

recurrent disorder until something addresses the root. He is sp & ki

yang def and looks colorless, emaciated, flaccid flesh, about 60 y/o,

chiropractor.

 

Frances Gander

Athens, Ohio

[Guest guest]

Hi Frances,

 

With such Yang xu patient I personally would only do very gentle

auricular-acupuncture, as full body acupuncture may be two dispersing, and would

mostly just use herbs, diet, exercise and some form of gentle body work.

 

All the best,

 

Yehuda

 

" Frances L. Gander " <threetreasures wrote:

I am also interested in your experience with this patient and any

others

who have worked with this type of blood disorder. A patient with

hemachromatosis came in recently. He only wanted infrequent

acupuncture. With that alone, I didn't feel we could address the blood

much. He draws his own blood and it eventually is balanced. A

recurrent disorder until something addresses the root. He is sp & ki

yang def and looks colorless, emaciated, flaccid flesh, about 60 y/o,

chiropractor.

 

Frances Gander

Athens, Ohio

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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