Jump to content
IndiaDivine.org

Chinese Medicinal Herbs of Hong Kong

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Guest guest

What is the ISBN of " Chinese Medicinal Herbs of Hong Kong " and where can you

get it? I couldn't find it.

 

Thanks,

 

Yehuda

 

Michael Tierra <mtierra wrote:

The specific indication for hypericum is for nerve pain. It is very

specific for cocygeal (sp) pain. I had a very memorable patient who had

chronic-acute pain of the coccyx. I did a lot of acupuncture and other herbal

treatments for this condition, though this was many years ago and I think my

acupuncture skill has improved a lot these days and if i were to see someone

like that patient again today, i probably could do better. However, I looked up

hypericum in Boericke's Materia Medica (a really important book not only for

homeopathy but for herbal therapy, with an incredible array of

psycho-physiological indicates for each herb) and it said it was specific for

pain of the coccyx. I gave her the mother tincture about 30 drops 3 times daily

and within three days the pain was completely gone. Nerve pain, nerve damage,

pains such as smashing a finger with a hammer are all very responsive to

hypericum. Its because of its traditional benefit for the nervous system that

hypericum has become popular for depression. Think of it as an herb that

relieves blood and qi stagnation and cools heat (antiinflammatory). Its one of

the great herbs of the world.

 

It has a traditional use in Chinese medicine. The whole herb is classified as

sweet and slightly bitter, cool, antipyretic, anti-inflammatory, antibiotic,

diuretic, dispels stagnant blood, anti-swelling. It is used for acute and

chronic hepatitis, early stage of hepatic cirrhosis, actue conjunctivitis,

tonsilities, appendicitis/ The Chinese dose is 15 to 60 gm prepared as a

decoction. Externally it is used for boils, furuncles, pyodermas, herpes zoster,

snake bites, traumatic injury. The fresh herb is mashed and topically applied.

(from Chinese Medicinal Herbs of hong Kong vol 2 ( a great series of books that

describes many herbs commonly used by Western herbalists that are locally used

in Chinese folk medicine).

 

Michael Tierra

www.planetherbs.cm

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of bill_schoenbart

Wednesday, July 11, 2007 5:24 PM

 

Re: Hypericum is a photosensitising & toxic plant

 

Numerous clinical trials have been done on Hypericum. Most studies

used products that were standardized to hypericin content. No trials

have reported adverse hepatic effects. Believe me, if it had

happened, it would have been in the headlines.

 

Hypericum is quite safe. The only danger it poses is when it is

taken with drugs. The Hypericum itself isn't dangerous, but it

induces the cytochrome P450 enzyme, which means that any drugs taken

along with Hypericum will clear the body faster than normal. That's

why women who take Hypericum with birth control can get pregnant, or

why somebody may not have the desired level of any drug in the

system.

 

Although the standard for depression is to wait 5 weeks for it to

take effect, Hypericum DOES affect mood much faster. I have

experienced that many times. It can have an immediate effect. People

suffering depression do need a longer time to feel the effect,

though.

 

- Bill

 

@ <%40>

, wrote:

>

> While I doubt Hypericum is hepatotoxic, one should be wary of

making that determination with such reasoning.

>

> 1. I doubt any careful analysis has been to either prove or

disprove any relationship between use of hypericum and liver damage.

Just because something has not been reported yet does not mean it is

not occurring. The vast majority of herb users do not inform their

MDs that they are using them, so other sources of liver damage would

be suspected first. Even if a person had liver damage, the

prevailing popular, yet ludicrous, view that herbs are always safe,

might prevent them from even considering that it might be important

to mention it to their MD.

>

> 2. Most hypericum on the market contains very little hypericin and

products that do are often taken at so low a dosage as to be both

safe and ineffective. dozens of patients over the years have told me

things like they were relived of their depression after their first

does of hypericum or that they take it occasionally to treat

depression when it arises. Hypericum does not work in this fashion,

so any such reports are actually reports of a placebo effect, which

is extremely common with depressed patients.

>

> Long cultural use of an herb does not prove its safety as

traditional peoples had no way of correlating long term damage with

the use of specific substances. All reliable indications of toxicity

in the classical chinese materia medica are related to short term

use with very obvious side-effects. While I do not think herbs

should have to be proven effective to be sold (though they should be

proven effective if someone wants to claim they are†" either

manufacturer or practitioner), they probably should be proven safe

before they are made available OTC. Or at the very least, all

products that have not been proven safe should have a caveat emptor

label to that effect on them.

>

>

> -------------- Original message ----------------------

> " " <

> > Hi Bill, & All,

> >

> > Re: Photo-urticaria, Bill Schoenbart wrote:

> > > Hypericum isn't hepatotoxic. Millions of doses are taken of

Saint Johns

> > > Wort every year with no sign of liver damage. Did you mean to

say

> > > something else? Bill

>

>

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

ISBN 962 07 3016 X

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of yehuda frischman

Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:46 AM

 

Chinese Medicinal Herbs of Hong Kong

 

 

 

What is the ISBN of " Chinese Medicinal Herbs of Hong Kong " and where can you

get it? I couldn't find it.

 

Thanks,

 

Yehuda

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...