Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 What is the ISBN of " Chinese Medicinal Herbs of Hong Kong " and where can you get it? I couldn't find it. Thanks, Yehuda Michael Tierra <mtierra wrote: The specific indication for hypericum is for nerve pain. It is very specific for cocygeal (sp) pain. I had a very memorable patient who had chronic-acute pain of the coccyx. I did a lot of acupuncture and other herbal treatments for this condition, though this was many years ago and I think my acupuncture skill has improved a lot these days and if i were to see someone like that patient again today, i probably could do better. However, I looked up hypericum in Boericke's Materia Medica (a really important book not only for homeopathy but for herbal therapy, with an incredible array of psycho-physiological indicates for each herb) and it said it was specific for pain of the coccyx. I gave her the mother tincture about 30 drops 3 times daily and within three days the pain was completely gone. Nerve pain, nerve damage, pains such as smashing a finger with a hammer are all very responsive to hypericum. Its because of its traditional benefit for the nervous system that hypericum has become popular for depression. Think of it as an herb that relieves blood and qi stagnation and cools heat (antiinflammatory). Its one of the great herbs of the world. It has a traditional use in Chinese medicine. The whole herb is classified as sweet and slightly bitter, cool, antipyretic, anti-inflammatory, antibiotic, diuretic, dispels stagnant blood, anti-swelling. It is used for acute and chronic hepatitis, early stage of hepatic cirrhosis, actue conjunctivitis, tonsilities, appendicitis/ The Chinese dose is 15 to 60 gm prepared as a decoction. Externally it is used for boils, furuncles, pyodermas, herpes zoster, snake bites, traumatic injury. The fresh herb is mashed and topically applied. (from Chinese Medicinal Herbs of hong Kong vol 2 ( a great series of books that describes many herbs commonly used by Western herbalists that are locally used in Chinese folk medicine). Michael Tierra www.planetherbs.cm _____ On Behalf Of bill_schoenbart Wednesday, July 11, 2007 5:24 PM Re: Hypericum is a photosensitising & toxic plant Numerous clinical trials have been done on Hypericum. Most studies used products that were standardized to hypericin content. No trials have reported adverse hepatic effects. Believe me, if it had happened, it would have been in the headlines. Hypericum is quite safe. The only danger it poses is when it is taken with drugs. The Hypericum itself isn't dangerous, but it induces the cytochrome P450 enzyme, which means that any drugs taken along with Hypericum will clear the body faster than normal. That's why women who take Hypericum with birth control can get pregnant, or why somebody may not have the desired level of any drug in the system. Although the standard for depression is to wait 5 weeks for it to take effect, Hypericum DOES affect mood much faster. I have experienced that many times. It can have an immediate effect. People suffering depression do need a longer time to feel the effect, though. - Bill @ <%40> , wrote: > > While I doubt Hypericum is hepatotoxic, one should be wary of making that determination with such reasoning. > > 1. I doubt any careful analysis has been to either prove or disprove any relationship between use of hypericum and liver damage. Just because something has not been reported yet does not mean it is not occurring. The vast majority of herb users do not inform their MDs that they are using them, so other sources of liver damage would be suspected first. Even if a person had liver damage, the prevailing popular, yet ludicrous, view that herbs are always safe, might prevent them from even considering that it might be important to mention it to their MD. > > 2. Most hypericum on the market contains very little hypericin and products that do are often taken at so low a dosage as to be both safe and ineffective. dozens of patients over the years have told me things like they were relived of their depression after their first does of hypericum or that they take it occasionally to treat depression when it arises. Hypericum does not work in this fashion, so any such reports are actually reports of a placebo effect, which is extremely common with depressed patients. > > Long cultural use of an herb does not prove its safety as traditional peoples had no way of correlating long term damage with the use of specific substances. All reliable indications of toxicity in the classical chinese materia medica are related to short term use with very obvious side-effects. While I do not think herbs should have to be proven effective to be sold (though they should be proven effective if someone wants to claim they are†" either manufacturer or practitioner), they probably should be proven safe before they are made available OTC. Or at the very least, all products that have not been proven safe should have a caveat emptor label to that effect on them. > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > " " < > > Hi Bill, & All, > > > > Re: Photo-urticaria, Bill Schoenbart wrote: > > > Hypericum isn't hepatotoxic. Millions of doses are taken of Saint Johns > > > Wort every year with no sign of liver damage. Did you mean to say > > > something else? Bill > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 ISBN 962 07 3016 X _____ On Behalf Of yehuda frischman Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:46 AM Chinese Medicinal Herbs of Hong Kong What is the ISBN of " Chinese Medicinal Herbs of Hong Kong " and where can you get it? I couldn't find it. Thanks, Yehuda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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