Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Tell us about her tongue and pulses. How is her BP? Are her feet cold? Does she have night sweats (or does she tend to sweat during the daytime?) Any low back pain? Frequent urination? And what about nightime urination? How is her sleep pattern? IMHO, I don't think that Er Xian Tang was the appropriate fomula to start with, as it primarily treats Kd Yin and Yang Xu, with deficient fire, while harmonizing the Ren and Chong channels. If, as you say, this patient has repletion, than we would need to examine the answers to the above questions to know from where to start. Respectfully, Yehuda PS. Michael, are you planning on updating Planetary Herbology? It is a wonderful book! Michael Tierra <mtierra wrote: I wonder if any of you have an effective empirical treatment for a women in early stages of menopause who is experience feelings of heat in the head. I sort of frame it as a rising evil yang condition and am trying a formula based on Er xian Tang (curculigo combination). Acupuncture has been GV 20, Li 4, Li 11, Kid3, spl 6. After one treatment no change in her condition. She is not a deficient type, in fact quite energetic. Makes a point of swimming each day in the Northern California ocean -- temperature in the 65 f. range. She said this symptom was occuring before swimming in the ocean and thinks that the cold water may be helping. Michael Tierra www.planetherbs.com _____ << ella for Spam Control >> has removed 1938 Spam messages and set aside 1319 Newsletters for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! www.ellaforspam.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Hi Michael, I have often found this symptom to be common in coffee-drinkers who are menopausal and post-menopausal. Once they stop drinking coffee, they are no longer " hot heads " . Michael Tierra <mtierra wrote: I wonder if any of you have an effective empirical treatment for a women in early stages of menopause who is experience feelings of heat in the head. I sort of frame it as a rising evil yang condition and am trying a formula based on Er xian Tang (curculigo combination). Acupuncture has been GV 20, Li 4, Li 11, Kid3, spl 6. After one treatment no change in her condition. She is not a deficient type, in fact quite energetic. Makes a point of swimming each day in the Northern California ocean -- temperature in the 65 f. range. She said this symptom was occuring before swimming in the ocean and thinks that the cold water may be helping. Michael Tierra www.planetherbs.com _____ << ella for Spam Control >> has removed 1938 Spam messages and set aside 1319 Newsletters for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! www.ellaforspam.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Hi Michael, Is it an excess or deficient problem? I think most texts simply show fevers of perimenopausal patients are related to yin xu, not excess heat/fire. Of course, that's simplified, vary according to your signs and symptoms. Lack of energy doesn't mean she doesn't have yin xu. Yin xu also gives people a lot of (frantic) energy - like when I stay up too late at night and catch that 'second wind' - burning the fumes of longevity! Geoff > Michael Tierra <mtierra wrote: > I wonder if any of you have an effective empirical treatment for a women in > early stages of menopause who is experience feelings of heat in the head. I > sort of frame it as a rising evil yang condition and am trying a formula > based on Er xian Tang (curculigo combination). Acupuncture has been GV 20, > Li 4, Li 11, Kid3, spl 6. After one treatment no change in her condition. > > She is not a deficient type, in fact quite energetic. Makes a point of > swimming each day in the Northern California ocean -- temperature in the 65 > f. range. She said this symptom was occuring before swimming in the ocean > and thinks that the cold water may be helping. > > Michael Tierra > www.planetherbs.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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