Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Just when you thought you've heard everything... Apparently China has created rules to govern the licensure of reincarnation of Buddhist leaders in order to exert further control over the Tibetan border regions. While this monkeying with the afterlife isn't without historical precedent (the ancient authorities limited householders to praying for two generations of ancestors in order to keep them from establishing a strong spiritual power base in the afterlife, presumably with the aim of limiting their temporal power) I thought communist ideology would preclude even acknowledging the metaphysical to this extent... apparently my optimism was unwarranted. (search " ban " " china " and " reincarnation " for links to stories on the topic). Par Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Yeah, I saw this last week in the paper. I think it's mainly to prevent the recognition of the next Dalai Lama should he be borne outside Tibet. Then again, some people say there won't be a next Dalai Lama. However, a number of famous Tibetan lamas have said not to look for their reincarnation. Yet their tulkus have been established. Bob , " Par Scott " <parufus wrote: > > Just when you thought you've heard everything... > > Apparently China has created rules to govern the licensure of reincarnation of Buddhist leaders in order to exert further control over the Tibetan border regions. While this monkeying with the afterlife isn't without historical precedent (the ancient authorities limited householders to praying for two generations of ancestors in order to keep them from establishing a strong spiritual power base in the afterlife, presumably with the aim of limiting their temporal power) I thought communist ideology would preclude even acknowledging the metaphysical to this extent... apparently my optimism was unwarranted. > > (search " ban " " china " and " reincarnation " for links to stories on the topic). > > Par > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 article found here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20227400/site/newsweek/ ann On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Bob Flaws wrote: > Yeah, I saw this last week in the paper. I think it's mainly to > prevent the recognition of the next Dalai Lama should he be borne > outside Tibet. Then again, some people say there won't be a next Dalai > Lama. However, a number of famous Tibetan lamas have said not to look > for their reincarnation. Yet their tulkus have been established. > > Bob > > , " Par Scott " <parufus > wrote: > > > > Just when you thought you've heard everything... > > > > Apparently China has created rules to govern the licensure of > reincarnation of Buddhist leaders in order to exert further control > over the Tibetan border regions. While this monkeying with the > afterlife isn't without historical precedent (the ancient authorities > limited householders to praying for two generations of ancestors in > order to keep them from establishing a strong spiritual power base in > the afterlife, presumably with the aim of limiting their temporal > power) I thought communist ideology would preclude even acknowledging > the metaphysical to this extent... apparently my optimism was > unwarranted. > > > > (search " ban " " china " and " reincarnation " for links to stories on > the topic). > > > > Par > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Bob, what do you mean 'their tulkus have been established'? ann On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Bob Flaws wrote: > Yeah, I saw this last week in the paper. I think it's mainly to > prevent the recognition of the next Dalai Lama should he be borne > outside Tibet. Then again, some people say there won't be a next Dalai > Lama. However, a number of famous Tibetan lamas have said not to look > for their reincarnation. Yet their tulkus have been established. > > Bob > > , " Par Scott " <parufus > wrote: > > > > Just when you thought you've heard everything... > > > > Apparently China has created rules to govern the licensure of > reincarnation of Buddhist leaders in order to exert further control > over the Tibetan border regions. While this monkeying with the > afterlife isn't without historical precedent (the ancient authorities > limited householders to praying for two generations of ancestors in > order to keep them from establishing a strong spiritual power base in > the afterlife, presumably with the aim of limiting their temporal > power) I thought communist ideology would preclude even acknowledging > the metaphysical to this extent... apparently my optimism was > unwarranted. > > > > (search " ban " " china " and " reincarnation " for links to stories on > the topic). > > > > Par > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 That's hillarious! I just about wet myself on that one. Just let me know where I can buy a reincarnation license, and I'll see y'all on the other side. Geoff , " Par Scott " <parufus wrote: > > Just when you thought you've heard everything... > > Apparently China has created rules to govern the licensure of reincarnation of Buddhist leaders in order to exert further control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Just be careful, as it might be a counterfeit, and you'll be meeting people on the other side, in the jail, that is :-) G Hudson <crudo20 wrote: That's hillarious! I just about wet myself on that one. Just let me know where I can buy a reincarnation license, and I'll see y'all on the other side. Geoff , " Par Scott " <parufus wrote: > > Just when you thought you've heard everything... > > Apparently China has created rules to govern the licensure of reincarnation of Buddhist leaders in order to exert further control oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Ann, Tulkus for these have been found and enthroned in any case. Bob , A Brameier <snakeoil.works wrote: > > Bob, what do you mean 'their tulkus have been established'? > ann > > > On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Bob Flaws wrote: > > > Yeah, I saw this last week in the paper. I think it's mainly to > > prevent the recognition of the next Dalai Lama should he be borne > > outside Tibet. Then again, some people say there won't be a next Dalai > > Lama. However, a number of famous Tibetan lamas have said not to look > > for their reincarnation. Yet their tulkus have been established. > > > > Bob > > > > , " Par Scott " <parufus@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Just when you thought you've heard everything... > > > > > > Apparently China has created rules to govern the licensure of > > reincarnation of Buddhist leaders in order to exert further control > > over the Tibetan border regions. While this monkeying with the > > afterlife isn't without historical precedent (the ancient authorities > > limited householders to praying for two generations of ancestors in > > order to keep them from establishing a strong spiritual power base in > > the afterlife, presumably with the aim of limiting their temporal > > power) I thought communist ideology would preclude even acknowledging > > the metaphysical to this extent... apparently my optimism was > > unwarranted. > > > > > > (search " ban " " china " and " reincarnation " for links to stories on > > the topic). > > > > > > Par > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 you mean the tulkus have been chosen before the death of the rinpoche? ann On Aug 24, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Bob Flaws wrote: > Ann, > > Tulkus for these have been found and enthroned in any case. > > Bob > > , A Brameier > <snakeoil.works wrote: > > > > Bob, what do you mean 'their tulkus have been established'? > > ann > > > > > > On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Bob Flaws wrote: > > > > > Yeah, I saw this last week in the paper. I think it's mainly to > > > prevent the recognition of the next Dalai Lama should he be borne > > > outside Tibet. Then again, some people say there won't be a > next Dalai > > > Lama. However, a number of famous Tibetan lamas have said not > to look > > > for their reincarnation. Yet their tulkus have been established. > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > , " Par Scott " <parufus@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Just when you thought you've heard everything... > > > > > > > > Apparently China has created rules to govern the licensure of > > > reincarnation of Buddhist leaders in order to exert further > control > > > over the Tibetan border regions. While this monkeying with the > > > afterlife isn't without historical precedent (the ancient > authorities > > > limited householders to praying for two generations of > ancestors in > > > order to keep them from establishing a strong spiritual power > base in > > > the afterlife, presumably with the aim of limiting their temporal > > > power) I thought communist ideology would preclude even > acknowledging > > > the metaphysical to this extent... apparently my optimism was > > > unwarranted. > > > > > > > > (search " ban " " china " and " reincarnation " for links to > stories on > > > the topic). > > > > > > > > Par > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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