Hamstring tear

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

this is a little off track, but I have torn my hamstring from my ishial

tuberosity. I don¹t yet know if I will need surgery to re-attach it, but

that is the most likely outcome. I will know more on the 25th when I meet

with the hamstring doctor.

 

I am seeking advise from those who might have experience in orthopedics and

have treated such an injury. I am limping and in pain. It is difficult to

sit and walk. I have no strength in the muscle at all. The bruising and

edema have reduced, but are still there. ( it was huge: like the size of a

paper plate. My leg was so edematous that the scale showed I gained 4 lbs

overnight).

 

I did take a lot of trauma/ bleeding herbs, arnica, traumeel, Advil, ice,

etc etc. not sure how to think about it from here.

 

Please contact me off the list- unless the topic is of interest to others.

 

thanks in advance for your assistance.

 

Cara O. Frank, R.OM, Dipl Ac & Ch.H.

Six Fishes Healing Arts &

President China Herb Company of the Chinese Herb Program

Tai Sophia Institute of the Healing Arts

215-772-0770

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

What you have done is just to control the inflamation of the trauma. Orthopedic

surgery is your last resort if your hamstring need to be reattached. More than

likely you might not be able to bear weight on that leg after surgery. So, for

now if you can use walker or crutches (if you have a good balance - you should

seek Physical Therapy for appropriate assisted device for safe gait - should not

be limping with pain and aggravating your injury).

 

Take Care and Good Luck,

Alan, MSPT

 

Cara Frank <herbbabe wrote: Hi all,

this is a little off track, but I have torn my hamstring from my ishial

tuberosity. I don¹t yet know if I will need surgery to re-attach it, but

that is the most likely outcome. I will know more on the 25th when I meet

with the hamstring doctor.

 

I am seeking advise from those who might have experience in orthopedics and

have treated such an injury. I am limping and in pain. It is difficult to

sit and walk. I have no strength in the muscle at all. The bruising and

edema have reduced, but are still there. ( it was huge: like the size of a

paper plate. My leg was so edematous that the scale showed I gained 4 lbs

overnight).

 

I did take a lot of trauma/ bleeding herbs, arnica, traumeel, Advil, ice,

etc etc. not sure how to think about it from here.

 

Please contact me off the list- unless the topic is of interest to others.

 

thanks in advance for your assistance.

 

Cara O. Frank, R.OM, Dipl Ac & Ch.H.

Six Fishes Healing Arts &

President China Herb Company

Director of the Chinese Herb Program

Tai Sophia Institute of the Healing Arts

215-772-0770

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your input. Couple of questions: If the hamstring is totally

torn, do I have choice besides surgery? How will it heal? Can PT be as

effective as surgery and PT? As it is, I cannot put weight on it, so I walk

with a limp. I do plan on getting PT. what is I want is a full restoration

of my functionality. I am an active and athletic person.

 

Sincerely,

C

Cara O. Frank, R.OM, Dipl Ac & Ch.H.

Six Fishes Healing Arts &

President China Herb Company of the Chinese Herb Program

Tai Sophia Institute of the Healing Arts

215-772-0770

 

 

 

 

Alan <alanmpt00

 

Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:23:05 -0700 (PDT)

 

Re: Hamstring tear

 

 

 

 

 

What you have done is just to control the inflamation of the trauma.

Orthopedic surgery is your last resort if your hamstring need to be

reattached. More than likely you might not be able to bear weight on that

leg after surgery. So, for now if you can use walker or crutches (if you

have a good balance - you should seek Physical Therapy for appropriate

assisted device for safe gait - should not be limping with pain and

aggravating your injury).

 

Take Care and Good Luck,

Alan, MSPT

 

Cara Frank <herbbabe <herbbabe%40verizon.net> > wrote:

Hi all,

this is a little off track, but I have torn my hamstring from my ishial

tuberosity. I don¹t yet know if I will need surgery to re-attach it, but

that is the most likely outcome. I will know more on the 25th when I meet

with the hamstring doctor.

 

I am seeking advise from those who might have experience in orthopedics and

have treated such an injury. I am limping and in pain. It is difficult to

sit and walk. I have no strength in the muscle at all. The bruising and

edema have reduced, but are still there. ( it was huge: like the size of a

paper plate. My leg was so edematous that the scale showed I gained 4 lbs

overnight).

 

I did take a lot of trauma/ bleeding herbs, arnica, traumeel, Advil, ice,

etc etc. not sure how to think about it from here.

 

Please contact me off the list- unless the topic is of interest to others.

 

thanks in advance for your assistance.

 

Cara O. Frank, R.OM, Dipl Ac & Ch.H.

Six Fishes Healing Arts &

President China Herb Company

Director of the Chinese Herb Program

Tai Sophia Institute of the Healing Arts

215-772-0770

 

[Guest guest]

If completely torn PT cannot do anything for the hamstring except surgery to

repair.

 

If your hamstring is partially torn, depend on the severity of the tear, you

might not need a surgery. In that case, appropriate electrical modalities can

speed up the healing and/or OM approach can achieve the same goal. Then,

strengthening when is appropriate. What I would do is to ask for second

orthopod opinion if your insurance allow you to do so. If you need surgery to

completely repair the torn HS, PT can assist you with safe gait with crutches

since you are active and athletic person, so you can be mobile while waiting for

and to do so after surgery. HS has to be healed prior strengthening to restore

its function. RICE is what you need right now! Don't walk on a painful leg!

Keep your weight off (Urgent Care should have given and showed you how to use

the crutches)until ortho said so. Did you have an MRI to find out the severity

of the torn?

 

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Alan

 

Cara Frank <herbbabe wrote: Thank you

for your input. Couple of questions: If the hamstring is totally

torn, do I have choice besides surgery? How will it heal? Can PT be as

effective as surgery and PT? As it is, I cannot put weight on it, so I walk

with a limp. I do plan on getting PT. what is I want is a full restoration

of my functionality. I am an active and athletic person.

 

Sincerely,

C

Cara O. Frank, R.OM, Dipl Ac & Ch.H.

Six Fishes Healing Arts &

President China Herb Company

Director of the Chinese Herb Program

Tai Sophia Institute of the Healing Arts

215-772-0770

 

Alan <alanmpt00

Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:23:05 -0700 (PDT)

Re: Hamstring tear

 

What you have done is just to control the inflamation of the trauma.

Orthopedic surgery is your last resort if your hamstring need to be

reattached. More than likely you might not be able to bear weight on that

leg after surgery. So, for now if you can use walker or crutches (if you

have a good balance - you should seek Physical Therapy for appropriate

assisted device for safe gait - should not be limping with pain and

aggravating your injury).

 

Take Care and Good Luck,

Alan, MSPT

 

Cara Frank <herbbabe <herbbabe%40verizon.net> > wrote:

Hi all,

this is a little off track, but I have torn my hamstring from my ishial

tuberosity. I don¹t yet know if I will need surgery to re-attach it, but

that is the most likely outcome. I will know more on the 25th when I meet

with the hamstring doctor.

 

I am seeking advise from those who might have experience in orthopedics and

have treated such an injury. I am limping and in pain. It is difficult to

sit and walk. I have no strength in the muscle at all. The bruising and

edema have reduced, but are still there. ( it was huge: like the size of a

paper plate. My leg was so edematous that the scale showed I gained 4 lbs

overnight).

 

I did take a lot of trauma/ bleeding herbs, arnica, traumeel, Advil, ice,

etc etc. not sure how to think about it from here.

 

Please contact me off the list- unless the topic is of interest to others.

 

thanks in advance for your assistance.

 

Cara O. Frank, R.OM, Dipl Ac & Ch.H.

Six Fishes Healing Arts &

President China Herb Company

Director of the Chinese Herb Program

Tai Sophia Institute of the Healing Arts

215-772-0770

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Cara,

 

I am a PT in San Diego and have my own private practice. Since your injury

was in 08/25 less than a month and we don't know what is the severity of the

tear and no ortho yet to discuss the options either rehab or surgery (all depend

on where and how severe the torn was), I would be more conservative. Eating

healthily will speed up your healing. If MRI confirm the complete torn of the

Hamstring especially at the Ischial Tuberosity, surgery can be your best bet.

 

Alan

 

Cara Frank <herbbabe wrote:

The first MRI only imaged the thigh. It did not go high enough to

visualize

the HS tendons.

I had a second last Friday of the pelvis/ hips and do not yet have the

results of it. Used crutches in the beginning, but after a week, it was

easier to walk. Did lots and lots of RICE, but it¹s past that now too ( the

accident happened on 8/25).

 

Are you a PT?

 

thanks again.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your advise. I am seeing dr hamstring next week.

 

Cara O. Frank, R.OM, Dipl Ac & Ch.H.

Six Fishes Healing Arts &

President China Herb Company of the Chinese Herb Program

Tai Sophia Institute of the Healing Arts

215-772-0770

 

 

 

 

Alan <alanmpt00

 

Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:00:23 -0700 (PDT)

 

Re: Hamstring tear

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Cara,

 

I am a PT in San Diego and have my own private practice. Since your injury

was in 08/25 less than a month and we don't know what is the severity of the

tear and no ortho yet to discuss the options either rehab or surgery (all

depend on where and how severe the torn was), I would be more conservative.

Eating healthily will speed up your healing. If MRI confirm the complete

torn of the Hamstring especially at the Ischial Tuberosity, surgery can be

your best bet.

 

Alan

 

Cara Frank <herbbabe <herbbabe%40verizon.net> > wrote:

The first MRI only imaged the thigh. It did not go high enough to visualize

the HS tendons.

I had a second last Friday of the pelvis/ hips and do not yet have the

results of it. Used crutches in the beginning, but after a week, it was

easier to walk. Did lots and lots of RICE, but it¹s past that now too ( the

accident happened on 8/25).

 

Are you a PT?

 

thanks again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Cara,

 

I am hoping it is a partial tear.

 

Perhaps you could use RX:

 

 

*Xiao Zhong Zhi Tong Tang *(Dispel Swelling, Stop Pain Decoction)

 

 

 

Hong Hua, Tao Ren, Su Mu, Chi Shao, Zi Ran Tong, 9 g

 

Yan Hu Suo, Chuan Xiong 12 g

 

Ru Xiang, Mo Yao 6 g

 

 

 

Decoct (if using raw herbs), otherwise powder and encapsulate and take 9

capsules TID

 

 

 

stops swelling, moves blood, stops pain

 

You would also do well to use an external* wash like:*

**

 

*Huo Xue Zhi Tong San*

 

 

 

Dang Gui Wei, Hong Hua, Su Mu, Bai Zhi, Jiang Huang, Wei Ling Xian, Qiang

Huo, Wu Jia Pi, Hai Tong Pi, Niu Xi, Chuan Lian Zi, Tu Fu Ling each 15 g

 

Ru Xiang 6 g

 

Hua Jiao 9 g

 

Gu Sui Bu 30 g

 

 

Decoct herbs and then use as a lotion or compress on affected area.

 

Let me know how you do!

 

 

 

On 9/15/07, Cara Frank <herbbabe wrote:

>

> Hi all,

> this is a little off track, but I have torn my hamstring from my ishial

> tuberosity. I don¹t yet know if I will need surgery to re-attach it, but

> that is the most likely outcome. I will know more on the 25th when I meet

> with the hamstring doctor.

>

> I am seeking advise from those who might have experience in orthopedics

> and

> have treated such an injury. I am limping and in pain. It is difficult to

> sit and walk. I have no strength in the muscle at all. The bruising and

> edema have reduced, but are still there. ( it was huge: like the size of a

> paper plate. My leg was so edematous that the scale showed I gained 4 lbs

> overnight).

>

> I did take a lot of trauma/ bleeding herbs, arnica, traumeel, Advil, ice,

> etc etc. not sure how to think about it from here.

>

> Please contact me off the list- unless the topic is of interest to others.

>

> thanks in advance for your assistance.

>

> Cara O. Frank, R.OM <http://r.om/>, Dipl Ac & Ch.H.

> Six Fishes Healing Arts &

> President China Herb Company

> Director of the Chinese Herb Program

> Tai Sophia Institute of the Healing Arts

> 215-772-0770

>

>