Hamstring tear

[Guest guest]

The first MRI only imaged the thigh. It did not go high enough to visualize

the HS tendons.

I had a second last Friday of the pelvis/ hips and do not yet have the

results of it. Used crutches in the beginning, but after a week, it was

easier to walk. Did lots and lots of RICE, but it¹s past that now too ( the

accident happened on 8/25).

 

Are you a PT?

 

thanks again.

 

Cara O. Frank, R.OM, Dipl Ac & Ch.H.

Six Fishes Healing Arts &

President China Herb Company of the Chinese Herb Program

Tai Sophia Institute of the Healing Arts

215-772-0770

 

 

 

 

Alan <alanmpt00

 

Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:53:20 -0700 (PDT)

 

Re: Hamstring tear

 

 

 

 

 

If completely torn PT cannot do anything for the hamstring except surgery to

repair.

 

If your hamstring is partially torn, depend on the severity of the tear, you

might not need a surgery. In that case, appropriate electrical modalities

can speed up the healing and/or OM approach can achieve the same goal.

Then, strengthening when is appropriate. What I would do is to ask for

second orthopod opinion if your insurance allow you to do so. If you need

surgery to completely repair the torn HS, PT can assist you with safe gait

with crutches since you are active and athletic person, so you can be mobile

while waiting for and to do so after surgery. HS has to be healed prior

strengthening to restore its function. RICE is what you need right now!

Don't walk on a painful leg! Keep your weight off (Urgent Care should have

given and showed you how to use the crutches)until ortho said so. Did you

have an MRI to find out the severity of the torn?

 

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Alan

 

Cara Frank <herbbabe <herbbabe%40verizon.net> > wrote:

Thank you for your input. Couple of questions: If the hamstring is totally

torn, do I have choice besides surgery? How will it heal? Can PT be as

effective as surgery and PT? As it is, I cannot put weight on it, so I walk

with a limp. I do plan on getting PT. what is I want is a full restoration

of my functionality. I am an active and athletic person.

 

Sincerely,

C

Cara O. Frank, R.OM, Dipl Ac & Ch.H.

Six Fishes Healing Arts &

President China Herb Company

Director of the Chinese Herb Program

Tai Sophia Institute of the Healing Arts

215-772-0770

 

Alan <alanmpt00 <alanmpt00%40> >

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Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:23:05 -0700 (PDT)

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Re: Hamstring tear

 

What you have done is just to control the inflamation of the trauma.

Orthopedic surgery is your last resort if your hamstring need to be

reattached. More than likely you might not be able to bear weight on that

leg after surgery. So, for now if you can use walker or crutches (if you

have a good balance - you should seek Physical Therapy for appropriate

assisted device for safe gait - should not be limping with pain and

aggravating your injury).

 

Take Care and Good Luck,

Alan, MSPT

 

Cara Frank <herbbabe <herbbabe%40verizon.net>

<herbbabe%40verizon.net> > wrote:

Hi all,

this is a little off track, but I have torn my hamstring from my ishial

tuberosity. I don¹t yet know if I will need surgery to re-attach it, but

that is the most likely outcome. I will know more on the 25th when I meet

with the hamstring doctor.

 

I am seeking advise from those who might have experience in orthopedics and

have treated such an injury. I am limping and in pain. It is difficult to

sit and walk. I have no strength in the muscle at all. The bruising and

edema have reduced, but are still there. ( it was huge: like the size of a

paper plate. My leg was so edematous that the scale showed I gained 4 lbs

overnight).

 

I did take a lot of trauma/ bleeding herbs, arnica, traumeel, Advil, ice,

etc etc. not sure how to think about it from here.

 

Please contact me off the list- unless the topic is of interest to others.

 

thanks in advance for your assistance.

 

Cara O. Frank, R.OM, Dipl Ac & Ch.H.

Six Fishes Healing Arts &

President China Herb Company

Director of the Chinese Herb Program

Tai Sophia Institute of the Healing Arts

215-772-0770

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Cara,

 

I have not treated serious TEARS of the hamstring, but I treat many horses

that have hamstring pain / spasm (and guarding to pressure-palpation) that

restricts their hind-end action.

 

My first needle is on the Mirror Area (Richard Tan) on the diagonal

(opposite) forelimb, on a line between the point of the shoulder and the tip of

the olecranon. Along that line (mainly SI Channel, equating to diagonal BL

Channel):

 

cranial 1/3 represents upper hamstring area

middle 1/3 represents middle hamstring area

caudal 1/3 represents lower hamstring area

 

I needle the diagonal shoulder point(s) in the zone(s) corresponding with the

most sensitive area(s) in the opposite hamstring.

 

In addition, I needle Animal Baihui (lumbo-sacral space) + ipsilateral BL30,

BL40, GB34 + two points in the affected hamstring.

 

In terms of releasing the pain / spasm, the clinical results in horses are

astonishingly fast - often occurring in less than 1 minute. However, follow-up

massage or TENS for 10 minutes/day is advised for 2-3 weeks.

 

Also, I advise homeopathic Arnica (6c or 30c), 2 tabs/day until the problem

is deemed to be gone.

 

Best regards,

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you Phil. I¹ll try it.

 

Cara O. Frank, R.OM, Dipl Ac & Ch.H.

Six Fishes Healing Arts &

President China Herb Company of the Chinese Herb Program

Tai Sophia Institute of the Healing Arts

215-772-0770

 

 

 

 

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Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:27:54 +0100

 

Hamstring tear

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Cara,

 

I have not treated serious TEARS of the hamstring, but I treat many horses

that have hamstring pain / spasm (and guarding to pressure-palpation) that

restricts their hind-end action.

 

My first needle is on the Mirror Area (Richard Tan) on the diagonal

(opposite) forelimb, on a line between the point of the shoulder and the tip

of

the olecranon. Along that line (mainly SI Channel, equating to diagonal BL

Channel):

 

cranial 1/3 represents upper hamstring area

middle 1/3 represents middle hamstring area

caudal 1/3 represents lower hamstring area

 

I needle the diagonal shoulder point(s) in the zone(s) corresponding with

the

most sensitive area(s) in the opposite hamstring.

 

In addition, I needle Animal Baihui (lumbo-sacral space) + ipsilateral

BL30,

BL40, GB34 + two points in the affected hamstring.

 

In terms of releasing the pain / spasm, the clinical results in horses are

astonishingly fast - often occurring in less than 1 minute. However,

follow-up

massage or TENS for 10 minutes/day is advised for 2-3 weeks.

 

Also, I advise homeopathic Arnica (6c or 30c), 2 tabs/day until the problem

is deemed to be gone.

 

Best regards,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the suggestions. I will know how serious this is tomorrow when I

see the doctor.

 

Cara O. Frank, R.OM, Dipl Ac & Ch.H.

Six Fishes Healing Arts &

President China Herb Company of the Chinese Herb Program

Tai Sophia Institute of the Healing Arts

215-772-0770

 

 

 

 

Robert Chu <chusauli

 

Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:40:53 -0700

 

Re: Hamstring tear

 

 

 

 

 

Cara,

 

I am hoping it is a partial tear.

 

Perhaps you could use RX:

 

*Xiao Zhong Zhi Tong Tang *(Dispel Swelling, Stop Pain Decoction)

 

Hong Hua, Tao Ren, Su Mu, Chi Shao, Zi Ran Tong, 9 g

 

Yan Hu Suo, Chuan Xiong 12 g

 

Ru Xiang, Mo Yao 6 g

 

Decoct (if using raw herbs), otherwise powder and encapsulate and take 9

capsules TID

 

stops swelling, moves blood, stops pain

 

You would also do well to use an external* wash like:*

**

 

*Huo Xue Zhi Tong San*

 

Dang Gui Wei, Hong Hua, Su Mu, Bai Zhi, Jiang Huang, Wei Ling Xian, Qiang

Huo, Wu Jia Pi, Hai Tong Pi, Niu Xi, Chuan Lian Zi, Tu Fu Ling each 15 g

 

Ru Xiang 6 g

 

Hua Jiao 9 g

 

Gu Sui Bu 30 g

 

Decoct herbs and then use as a lotion or compress on affected area.

 

Let me know how you do!

 

On 9/15/07, Cara Frank <herbbabe <herbbabe%40verizon.net>

> wrote:

>

> Hi all,

> this is a little off track, but I have torn my hamstring from my ishial

> tuberosity. I don¹t yet know if I will need surgery to re-attach it, but

> that is the most likely outcome. I will know more on the 25th when I meet

> with the hamstring doctor.

>

> I am seeking advise from those who might have experience in orthopedics

> and

> have treated such an injury. I am limping and in pain. It is difficult to

> sit and walk. I have no strength in the muscle at all. The bruising and

> edema have reduced, but are still there. ( it was huge: like the size of a

> paper plate. My leg was so edematous that the scale showed I gained 4 lbs

> overnight).

>

> I did take a lot of trauma/ bleeding herbs, arnica, traumeel, Advil, ice,

> etc etc. not sure how to think about it from here.

>

> Please contact me off the list- unless the topic is of interest to others.

>

> thanks in advance for your assistance.

>

> Cara O. Frank, R.OM <http://r.om/>, Dipl Ac & Ch.H.

> Six Fishes Healing Arts &

> President China Herb Company

> Director of the Chinese Herb Program

> Tai Sophia Institute of the Healing Arts

> 215-772-0770

>

>