Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 One thing that is quite deficient in the US are the availability of processed herbs (pao zhi), at least from the major importers like Mayway and golden flower. Are there lesser known Chinese companies that are importing a larger variety of processed medicinals? Thanks, - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 most Chinese importers (raw herbs importers) are doing their own pao zhi but Mayway or Golden flower Christine Christine W Chang, DAOM, LAc., BOD & Herbal Medicine Committee (AAAOM) American Association of Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine 310-951-8698 (cell) " I think, therefore I am. " Jblalack Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:52:41 PM pao zhi One thing that is quite deficient in the US are the availability of processed herbs (pao zhi), at least from the major importers like Mayway and golden flower. Are there lesser known Chinese companies that are importing a larger variety of processed medicinals? Thanks, - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 I do not know of importers that deal in processed herbs, but I do know of a Korean practitioner here in Chicago who has his own pharmacist preparing the raw medicinals for his clinic. Quite an operation. -Steve Stephen Bonzak, L.Ac., Dipl. C.H. http://www.health-traditions.com sbonzak 773-470-6994 On Oct 11, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Jblalack wrote: > One thing that is quite deficient in the US are the availability of > processed herbs (pao zhi), at least from the major importers like > Mayway and > golden flower. Are there lesser known Chinese companies that are > importing a > larger variety of processed medicinals? > > Thanks, > > - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Christine, Are any of these importers selling them to practitioners? If so do have some contact info? - _____ On Behalf Of Christine Chang Friday, October 12, 2007 8:07 AM Re: pao zhi most Chinese importers (raw herbs importers) are doing their own pao zhi but Mayway or Golden flower Christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Hi Jason, We have few different kind of importers in USA- raw herbs: directly form China or Korea and sale to practitioners in raw form. powder or granule herbs, tincture: they purchase raw herbs from China to their manufacture, process those in their local (Taiwan, China, Japan and some USA) plants and imported & sale in the bottle form. So, if you said " pao zhi " - treated herbs... like shu di huang, zhi shou wu or .... maybe the raw herbs importers or USA locale manufactures be interested. What do you have? ....( do my sound like a dealer now??!! ) Christine Christine W Chang, DAOM, LAc., BOD & Herbal Medicine Committee (AAAOM) American Association of Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine 310-951-8698 (cell) " I think, therefore I am. " Jblalack Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:45:57 PM RE: pao zhi Christine, Are any of these importers selling them to practitioners? If so do have some contact info? - _____ [] On Behalf Of Christine Chang Friday, October 12, 2007 8:07 AM Re: pao zhi most Chinese importers (raw herbs importers) are doing their own pao zhi but Mayway or Golden flower Christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 It only takes a couple hours a week to fry up your own. The herbal pharmacy at AOMA in Austin has many dry fry, vinegar fry, and honey fried herbs available. It would be simple enough to pay a student or staff member to whip some up each week. As I recall they used a dual burner outdoor coleman style propane grill. It's possible that their pharmacy White Crane Herbal Medicine would sell pao zhi herbs to practitioners, but I hardly think that would be the cost effective way to go about it. Besides, knowing you Jason you are gonna need some rather peculiar pao zhi recipes like mi zhi di long... Tim Sharpe On Behalf Of Jblalack Friday, October 12, 2007 1:46 AM RE: pao zhi Christine, Are any of these importers selling them to practitioners? If so do have some contact info? - _____ On Behalf Of Christine Chang Friday, October 12, 2007 8:07 AM Re: pao zhi most Chinese importers (raw herbs importers) are doing their own pao zhi but Mayway or Golden flower Christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Christine, Yes you are correct, I am referring to treated herbs, i.e. shu da huang, da huang tan. Etc. Not the basic ones that everyone carries like, shu di huang and zhi shou wu. I am looking only for the raw forms, not tinctures, capsules etc. I am also not a dealer, but a practitioner that would just like to have these in my office. Since some of the processing methods can take 24 hours (or more), it is impossible for our clinic to do this. Of course less time consuming methods are possible on a small scale. Therefore to sum up: Do you have a contact of a raw herb importer that carries and distributes processed forms of herbs. IF this is not clear please let me know. Thanks for you input, - _____ On Behalf Of Christine Chang Friday, October 12, 2007 10:09 PM Re: pao zhi Hi Jason, We have few different kind of importers in USA- raw herbs: directly form China or Korea and sale to practitioners in raw form. powder or granule herbs, tincture: they purchase raw herbs from China to their manufacture, process those in their local (Taiwan, China, Japan and some USA) plants and imported & sale in the bottle form. So, if you said " pao zhi " - treated herbs... like shu di huang, zhi shou wu or ... maybe the raw herbs importers or USA locale manufactures be interested. What do you have? ....( do my sound like a dealer now??!! ) Christine Christine W Chang, DAOM, LAc., BOD & Herbal Medicine Committee (AAAOM) American Association of Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine 310-951-8698 (cell) " I think, therefore I am. " Jblalack <@chinesemed <%40Chinese Medicine> icinedoc.com> @ <%40> Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:45:57 PM RE: pao zhi Christine, Are any of these importers selling them to practitioners? If so do have some contact info? - _____ [] On Behalf Of Christine Chang Friday, October 12, 2007 8:07 AM Re: pao zhi most Chinese importers (raw herbs importers) are doing their own pao zhi but Mayway or Golden flower Christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 > Therefore to sum up: Do you have a contact of a raw herb importer that > carries and distributes processed forms of herbs. IF this is not clear > please let me know. Similarly to a prior post about Kwok Shing, most of the big importers that supply Chinatown pharmacies stock a range of prepared products, if you know how to ask for what you need. If you are looking for stuff like charred zhi zi, heart-removed mai men dong, stir-fried suan zao ren, etc, this stuff is pretty easily obtained. Some things like vinegar chai hu are often still done in the shops themselves, I don't know if Kwok Shing and others sell them prepared. The Chinese importers tend to have a wide range of processed herbs, but communication is often easier in Mandarin or Cantonese than English. The suggestion for Kamwo in NYC is on the money, they have a full room for processing and they keep the old ways alive. Probably costs more than Kwok Shing but probably better English service. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 I've alwasy gotten very prompt and helpful service from Kamwo, thoug it can be a bit more expensive... Par - Eric Brand Friday, October 12, 2007 9:43 PM Re: pao zhi > Therefore to sum up: Do you have a contact of a raw herb importer that > carries and distributes processed forms of herbs. IF this is not clear > please let me know. Similarly to a prior post about Kwok Shing, most of the big importers that supply Chinatown pharmacies stock a range of prepared products, if you know how to ask for what you need. If you are looking for stuff like charred zhi zi, heart-removed mai men dong, stir-fried suan zao ren, etc, this stuff is pretty easily obtained. Some things like vinegar chai hu are often still done in the shops themselves, I don't know if Kwok Shing and others sell them prepared. The Chinese importers tend to have a wide range of processed herbs, but communication is often easier in Mandarin or Cantonese than English. The suggestion for Kamwo in NYC is on the money, they have a full room for processing and they keep the old ways alive. Probably costs more than Kwok Shing but probably better English service. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Eric, Do you have any contact information for such distributors? - _____ On Behalf Of Eric Brand Saturday, October 13, 2007 9:44 AM Re: pao zhi > Therefore to sum up: Do you have a contact of a raw herb importer that > carries and distributes processed forms of herbs. IF this is not clear > please let me know. Similarly to a prior post about Kwok Shing, most of the big importers that supply Chinatown pharmacies stock a range of prepared products, if you know how to ask for what you need. If you are looking for stuff like charred zhi zi, heart-removed mai men dong, stir-fried suan zao ren, etc, this stuff is pretty easily obtained. Some things like vinegar chai hu are often still done in the shops themselves, I don't know if Kwok Shing and others sell them prepared. The Chinese importers tend to have a wide range of processed herbs, but communication is often easier in Mandarin or Cantonese than English. The suggestion for Kamwo in NYC is on the money, they have a full room for processing and they keep the old ways alive. Probably costs more than Kwok Shing but probably better English service. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 > Do you have any contact information for such distributors? I can get their contact info the next time I stop by the pharmacy I used to study at (DXD). They are wholesalers, so I think they only ship by the full box rather than the individual pound or catty. Maybe they could mix different things into one box, but I think generally they ship a box of 30 lbs of charred gardenia or whatever. The minimum order might be too high for a clinic vs. a shop, but I'll get their contact info the next time I go in. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Has anyone made contact with Emmanuel Segman in San Francisco about these herbs? Perhaps he could help. I've forgotten the company he works for unfortunately. Doug , " Eric Brand " <smilinglotus wrote: > > > > Do you have any contact information for such distributors? > > I can get their contact info the next time I stop by the pharmacy I > used to study at (DXD). They are wholesalers, so I think they only > ship by the full box rather than the individual pound or catty. Maybe > they could mix different things into one box, but I think generally > they ship a box of 30 lbs of charred gardenia or whatever. The > minimum order might be too high for a clinic vs. a shop, but I'll get > their contact info the next time I go in. > > Eric > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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