Re:Assistance with Herbal ??Foementation

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob & All,

 

Bob wrote:

> Lignum Pini Nodi (Song Jie)

> Rhizoma Homolomenae (Qian Nian Jian)

 

I wrote:

> (1) Lignum Pini Nodi = Songjie = Pine-knot Wood

> (2) Homolamena Occulta = Qiannianjian

 

We agree on that, except that the more usual spelling (by a ratio of almost

9000:1) is .HomAlomena (30600 hts on Google v 34 hits for HomOlomena)

 

Bob wrote:

> Resina Liquidambaris = Bai Jiao Xiang

 

That is correct but Baijiaoxiang (aka: Baijiao; Baiyunxiang; Baiyun;

Yunxiang; Fengxiangzhi; Fengzhi; Jiaoxiang) refers to Formosan /

Taiwanese Liquidambar Resin [Resina Liquidambaris taiwanianae /

formosanae; Beautiful Sweetgum Resin; Baiyun also known as incense ]

 

I wrote:

> (3) Styrax Liquidus; Resina Liquidambaris Orientalis = Suhexiang

 

That also is correct but the variety (Liquidambaris Orientalis) differs from

that of Baijiaoxiang (Liquidambaris taiwanianae / formosanae)

 

Bob wrote:

> Cortex Radicis Kadsurae = Zi Jing Pi

 

Wiseman [ http://memo.cgu.edu.tw/wiseman/CDDIC.pdf ] calls

Zi Jing Pi = Cortex Cercis but several web pages use Zijingpi as

synonymous with Cortex Kadsurae Radicis also

 

That leaves me confused as to whether Cercis (Family = Leguminoseae) is

identical to the plant of Cortex Kadsurae Radicis (Family = Schisandraceae).

 

Either way, Zijingpi seems to be a different plant than Heilaohu - Kadsura

Coccinea (Family: Annonaceae - See: http://tinyurl.com/2jtaq3 )

 

I wrote:

> (4) Kadsurae Coccineae Rx / Cx-Rx / Caulis = Heilaohugen " Black Tiger

> Rx " ; Heilaohu " Black Tiger " ; Choufantuan; Dazuan; Fantuangen;

> Feihongnanwuweizi; Guoshanlongteng (from Guandong); Guoshanxiang;

> Jiufantuan; Lengfantuan; Rudishexiang; Sanbailiangyin; Zuandifeng;

> Toudilianzhu

 

Wiseman [ http://memo.cgu.edu.tw/wiseman/CDDIC.pdf ] says:

 

Kadsurae Coccineae Cortex / Radicis = Fan Tuan Gen

Kadsurae Coccineae Caulis + Folium = Hei Lao Tou

 

I had missed Heilaotou and will add it to my list.

 

Best regards,

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Wanted to say thanks to both Phil and Bob for the prompt reply to my

post. The responses were just what I was looking for!

 

Cheers,

 

Joey D.

San Diego

 

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< wrote:

>

> Hi Bob & All,

>

> Bob wrote:

> > Lignum Pini Nodi (Song Jie)

> > Rhizoma Homolomenae (Qian Nian Jian)

>

> I wrote:

> > (1) Lignum Pini Nodi = Songjie = Pine-knot Wood

> > (2) Homolamena Occulta = Qiannianjian

>

> We agree on that, except that the more usual spelling (by a ratio

of almost

> 9000:1) is .HomAlomena (30600 hts on Google v 34 hits for

HomOlomena)

>

> Bob wrote:

> > Resina Liquidambaris = Bai Jiao Xiang

>

> That is correct but Baijiaoxiang (aka: Baijiao; Baiyunxiang;

Baiyun;

> Yunxiang; Fengxiangzhi; Fengzhi; Jiaoxiang) refers to Formosan /

> Taiwanese Liquidambar Resin [Resina Liquidambaris taiwanianae /

> formosanae; Beautiful Sweetgum Resin; Baiyun also known as

incense ]

>

> I wrote:

> > (3) Styrax Liquidus; Resina Liquidambaris Orientalis = Suhexiang

>

> That also is correct but the variety (Liquidambaris Orientalis)

differs from

> that of Baijiaoxiang (Liquidambaris taiwanianae / formosanae)

>

> Bob wrote:

> > Cortex Radicis Kadsurae = Zi Jing Pi

>

> Wiseman [ http://memo.cgu.edu.tw/wiseman/CDDIC.pdf ] calls

> Zi Jing Pi = Cortex Cercis but several web pages use Zijingpi as

> synonymous with Cortex Kadsurae Radicis also

>

> That leaves me confused as to whether Cercis (Family =

Leguminoseae) is

> identical to the plant of Cortex Kadsurae Radicis (Family =

Schisandraceae).

>

> Either way, Zijingpi seems to be a different plant than Heilaohu -

Kadsura

> Coccinea (Family: Annonaceae - See: http://tinyurl.com/2jtaq3 )

>

> I wrote:

> > (4) Kadsurae Coccineae Rx / Cx-Rx / Caulis = Heilaohugen " Black

Tiger

> > Rx " ; Heilaohu " Black Tiger " ; Choufantuan; Dazuan; Fantuangen;

> > Feihongnanwuweizi; Guoshanlongteng (from Guandong); Guoshanxiang;

> > Jiufantuan; Lengfantuan; Rudishexiang; Sanbailiangyin; Zuandifeng;

> > Toudilianzhu

>

> Wiseman [ http://memo.cgu.edu.tw/wiseman/CDDIC.pdf ] says:

>

> Kadsurae Coccineae Cortex / Radicis = Fan Tuan Gen

> Kadsurae Coccineae Caulis + Folium = Hei Lao Tou

>

> I had missed Heilaotou and will add it to my list.

>

> Best regards,

>

>

>

>