Understanding Huo4 as a descriptive term used relative to the elimination of

[Guest guest]

Yehuda and Jason, points well taken. Eliminates and remove phlegm

sounds like they would work. Jason, I agree we need to know what

these things do rather than getting hung up on words. However, because

we use transform, this question comes up and it takes a discussion

like this to resolve, eliminate, vaporize the misconceptions. Hang

around the schools and you'll have the same conversation year after

year. It takes questions like these to bring it out. I will sadly

mourn the loss of vaporize. (TCM taken into the 25th Century)

doug

 

 

 

, yehuda frischman

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> Doug,

>

> I believe you are missing the point. As I mentioned, both the

Eastland Press glossary and Wiseman's PD, both use the term

" forceful " in their description of what happens to the phlegm in Huo4

Tan1: Bensky chooses the description, " dislodges, forcefully

removes, " and Wiseman chooses the description, " forceful elimination

of evils such as phlegm. " The common denominator implicit in this

term according to both scholars is a forceful action to get rid of

phlegm, and where it goes when using the term Huo4, doesn't really

matter. Therefore, the descriptions used to theorize where or how

phlegm goes when applying the action of Huo4, such as transforming,

or dislodging or vaporizing seem IMO, to be based on imagination and

don't do justice to accurately connote what IS the relevant quality

of the action which is " heroic, " forceful, and reducing.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Yehuda

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> wrote:

> The problem I have with dislodge is that it suggests that

phlegm is a

> substance that is moved somewhere else when it is dislodged. It's same

> issue as transformed. Transformed into what?

> I've never seen phlegm, when properly treated, do anything other

> than... well, disappear (vaporize?)

> Jason, while we're here, what is the chinese word for scour?

>

> Doug

[Guest guest]

Good point Doug. I just don't think Buck Rodgers and his 25th Century

Phelgm dislodger sounds as cool as the Phlegm Vaporizer.

 

Lucky for us that the same herb vaporizes and dislodges. Amazing!

Geoff

 

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wrote:

>..I will sadly

> mourn the loss of vaporize. (TCM taken into the 25th Century)

> doug