Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Thanks for doing that. I remember that Macrobiotic theory used to caution against the use of too much umeboshi paste -- the same with Gomasio. I never fully understood why. Michael Tierra _____ On Behalf Of znelms Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:02 PM Re: Stomach acid was-- Wu Mei as a Supplementing Medicinal Sure Michael, I'll spell it out. My comment was merely a muse, but here goes. 1. Someone is operating under the usumption that eating Ume-boshi neutralizes stomach acid, or whatever. " I keep coming back to thinking about umeboshi plum, a near panacea in Japanese folk medicine, considered the king of alkalinizers... " 2. Low stomach acid allows H. Pylori to proliferate. " Chronic H pylori infections are associated with lower levels of stomach acid(4) " 3. The proliferation of H. pylori can lead to a horrible case of the nasties. " Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) is an important risk factor for inflammation and the development of peptic ulcer disease, and cancers of the stomach.(3) " In other words, Eating Ume-Boshi leads to a more alkaline stomach. A more alkaline stomach can lead to H. pylori proliferation. H. pylori proliferation can lead to cancer. The Japanese eat Ume-Boshi religiously for health. It's probably great for many of them but considering their high rates of Stomach cancer in Japan, the practice is questionable. In fact, the western medical community believes that eating too many pickled or salted foods causes stomach cancer. The Japanese overly consume both of these. I am not implying that Ume-Boshi " causes " cancer. What I am implying is that perhaps it is not a panacea. Perhaps care should be used with Ume-Boshi as that taken with any medicinal. I do believe that Ume-Boshi is a powerful medicinal, but prudence should be maintained when prescribing any herb regardless of whether it's a food or not. Having lived in Japan and seeing how they live, I feel that their high rates of stomach cancer are more likely due to overwork, rigid social constraints, and emotional repression rather than Ume-Boshi consumption. None the less, it's something to consider. Zach @ <%40> , " Michael Tierra " <mtierra wrote: > > What? Please, what are you trying to say? Could you spell it out? > > _____ > > @ <%40> > [@ <%40> ] On Behalf Of znelms > Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:13 AM > @ <%40> > Re: Stomach acid was-- Wu Mei as a Supplementing Medicinal > > > > The irony of this whole discussion is that in the land of Ume-Boshi > they have some of the highest rates of stomach cancer. > Z > > > > > > _____ > > << ella for Spam Control >> has removed 5275 Spam messages and set aside > 3247 Newsletters for me > You can use it too - and it's FREE! www.ellaforspam.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 I think it was the high amounts of salt. . On Feb 14, 2008, at 1:53 AM, Michael Tierra wrote: > Thanks for doing that. I remember that Macrobiotic theory used to > caution > against the use of too much umeboshi paste -- the same with Gomasio. > I never > fully understood why. > > Michael Tierra > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of znelms > Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:02 PM > > Re: Stomach acid was-- Wu Mei as a Supplementing > Medicinal > > Sure Michael, I'll spell it out. > My comment was merely a muse, but here goes. > > 1. Someone is operating under the usumption that eating Ume-boshi > neutralizes stomach acid, or whatever. > " I keep coming back to thinking about umeboshi plum, a near panacea in > Japanese folk medicine, considered the king of alkalinizers... " > > 2. Low stomach acid allows H. Pylori to proliferate. > " Chronic H pylori infections are associated with lower levels of > stomach acid(4) " > > 3. The proliferation of H. pylori can lead to a horrible case of the > nasties. > " Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) is an important risk factor for > inflammation and the development of peptic ulcer disease, and cancers > of the stomach.(3) " > > In other words, Eating Ume-Boshi leads to a more alkaline stomach. A > more alkaline stomach can lead to H. pylori proliferation. H. pylori > proliferation can lead to cancer. > > The Japanese eat Ume-Boshi religiously for health. It's probably > great for many of them but considering their high rates of Stomach > cancer in Japan, the practice is questionable. In fact, the western > medical community believes that eating too many pickled or salted > foods causes stomach cancer. The Japanese overly consume both of > these. > I am not implying that Ume-Boshi " causes " cancer. What I am implying > is that perhaps it is not a panacea. Perhaps care should be used > with Ume-Boshi as that taken with any medicinal. > I do believe that Ume-Boshi is a powerful medicinal, but prudence > should be maintained when prescribing any herb regardless of whether > it's a food or not. > > Having lived in Japan and seeing how they live, I feel that their > high rates of stomach cancer are more likely due to overwork, rigid > social constraints, and emotional repression rather than Ume-Boshi > consumption. None the less, it's something to consider. > Zach > > @ <%40 > > > , " Michael Tierra " > <mtierra wrote: > > > > What? Please, what are you trying to say? Could you spell it out? > > > > _____ > > > > @ <%40 > > > > > [@ <%40 > > > ] On Behalf Of znelms > > Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:13 AM > > @ < > %40> > > > Re: Stomach acid was-- Wu Mei as a Supplementing > Medicinal > > > > > > > > The irony of this whole discussion is that in the land of Ume-Boshi > > they have some of the highest rates of stomach cancer. > > Z > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > << ella for Spam Control >> has removed 5275 Spam messages and set > aside > > 3247 Newsletters for me > > You can use it too - and it's FREE! www.ellaforspam.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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