Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:10 AM, alon marcus <alonmarcus wrote: > I for one, however, believe a strong western based > scientific critical lens is a must in order to assess one's clinical > outcomes in a more meaningful way. > Me too. This is the key reason that the psycho-spiritual applications have lost their luster in my mind. No measurable outcomes. If however one really does want to go in that direction and starts asking themselves what a measurable outcome for a spiritual intervention looks like, you may notice that eventually you are testing for clinical depression. -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Yes outcome measurements are extremely important to me as well. This is why I chose to focus so much on the treatment of skin disorders. I can use modern technology,ie. a camera, to measure the progress of someones healing from start to finish. So if the patient or practitioner are ever in doubt about the work being done, the picture can be brought out to remind us of the original state. Progress cannot be argued. The changes are very objective. Either the patient is better or not. I have seen people using psycho-spiritual/ energy healing methods to heal objective problems like eczema. Try for many months, while being put through various hypnotic trances and given remedies that were based on the practitioners " intuition " , but there would be almost no change in the skin. The practitioner would then say, " Oh, it is because you still have some hatred left over from some past life " , or something like this. I cannot even begin to talk about the amount of money some of these healers charge for their services! Then the same patient tries CM for a few months, using a remedy based on the proper differentation of syndromes as deemed appropriate to dermatology. A remedy based on patterns and science, rather than intuition. Within a few weeks OBJECTIVE changes are noticed, the patient gains confidence in the treatment and keeps going. Within a few months, their eczema is almost completely gone, with no new flare ups. The results can be measured. I hate nothing more than wasting my or a patients time. I want to see changes that are obvious so that everybody feels happy at the end of the day. Trevor , " Al Stone " <al wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:10 AM, alon marcus <alonmarcus wrote: > > > I for one, however, believe a strong western based > > scientific critical lens is a must in order to assess one's clinical > > outcomes in a more meaningful way. > Me too. > > This is the key reason that the psycho-spiritual applications have lost > their luster in my mind. No measurable outcomes. If however one really does > want to go in that direction and starts asking themselves what a measurable > outcome for a spiritual intervention looks like, you may notice that > eventually you are testing for clinical depression. > > -- > , DAOM > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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