SV: What is MSU???

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Jason!

 

 

 

Is it possible to get any copies of your translations regarding GANMO

problems, as you mention in your e-mail?

 

 

 

BR

 

Carl Wallmark

 

 

 

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Michael,

 

I hope no one is claiming that CM can cure everything. However the better

clinician one gets the more things one can cure (in any system).

 

Since this overall 'debate' seems a bit stagnant at the moment I think a

worthwhile divergence is in the direction that Michael is taking this. Since

I am essentially a clinician, as most people on this list probably are,

focusing on clinical scenarios seems the best way to understand and advance

some of these issues. Extended theoretical discussions are only useful if

they can be rooted into some clinical reality.

 

I think Michael's point is heard, we have to trust ourselves and our own

experiences in the clinic and not just rely on books. I totally agree. I

think most of us also agree that we are at the tip on CM here in the west

and have a long way to go, but this no way means we can't practice what we

DO know and greatly help people out. My rant is merely to encourage the

newer practitioners / students not to just go for the trick healing

modalities or start making up theories to fill the voids that we sometimes

have from our schools.

 

As for the GANMAO:

 

First I want to thank Michael for presenting his case, and having the

humility to show his ineffectiveness in this situation. Treating oneself is

many times difficult - and ganmao is also not easy. I also find case studies

were something doesn't work much more interesting than one's than magically

cure everything. This is an opportunity to learn.

 

I happen to be fortunate enough to treat a large number of ganmao, at least

a few everyday during the winter. Therefore, my guess, from the way you

describe things, is that you probably prescribed incorrectly for yourself,

but we will never know. (You should right up your case study.) All in all, I

find CM very reliable for ganmao. However, there are many formulas and many

shades of grey when prescribing clinically for ganmao. It is not as simple

as is it just wind-cold or wind-heat. Sometimes we do something simple (gui

zhi tang) and it works great sometimes it doesn't.. what gives.?

 

I have one Chinese book with 100's of formulas for ganmao with 25+ patterns.

Once one decides on the correct pattern, all of the formulas can be modified

for the individual based on their presentation / constitution (i.e.

underlying deficiencies etc) and which aspects are strongest etc. It is not

an easy cut and dry topic. Many times it is neither wind-cold or wind-heat,

but somewhere in the middle. Simple black and white break downs of w-c and

w-h, taught in school, crumble very quickly in day to day clinical settings.

(BTW: One can have 102 fever with any number of ganmao patterns (cold heat

etc), and modern TCM texts do pay attention to the thermometer.)

 

You mention aspirin. I think what Christine pointed out is semi-correct in

regard to the aspirin. Even in wind-cold (or wind-heat) one can use overly

cold medicinals (relative to the pattern) to stop symptoms; look at some of

the over-the-counter cold CM formulas. Although this does not mean it was a

good thing - The real question is, did it vent the pathogen? If your body is

unable to vent the pathogen (and the therapy is too cold (i.e..

antibiotics)) then it can create a lurking pathogen.

 

Ganmao is a favorite topic of mine, I probably translate / read 1 article or

chapter from classical texts (or about famous doctors) a week on the topic.

I just finished reading a great article on Ye Tian-Shi's differentiation of

cold damage and warm disease. Even such a simple topic, as Michael points

out, can have many ways to tackle it. If one does not properly differentiate

and weigh all the possible influences then one will have an ineffective

treatment. One only needs to spend a few hours reading case studies to

realize how deep ganmao can be. I really think CM has figured ganmao out

pretty well, I would be surprised if it was a major lacuna in CM theory.

 

Presenting cases and quagmires that come up in the clinic are worth 1000

pieces of gold. I always find when I am stuck, or think that CM doesn't have

the answer, asking others can many times illuminate things. This in turn

expands my thinking and may point me into an avenue of needed or wanted

study.

 

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