help is needed with points - TW11 = qing leng yuan

[Guest guest]

Hello all ,

 

 

 

Yes, I know that we are usually talking about herbs and formulas

 

But, need your kind help with ref. for point function – TW-11 ( qing leng

yuan).

 

 

 

Beside all function that you can find in the books that point is good for

the shoulder and arm Pain im looking for some ref. or your experience if

this point also calm spirit or reduce stress .

 

 

 

Will appreciate your input, knowledge and self experience.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Aln

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Aln,

 

In the Worsley tradition, the point could definitely be used to help a

person " chill out " , relax, and refresh themselves by contacting a

deeper, cool, place within, particularly if you detect a TW imbalance.

I have found that to be the case when I have been treated with this point.

 

I hope that is useful,

Neil Pregozen

 

 

, " aln aln " <aln393 wrote:

>

> Hello all ,

>

>

>

> Yes, I know that we are usually talking about herbs and formulas

>

> But, need your kind help with ref. for point function – TW-11 ( qing

leng

> yuan).

>

>

>

> Beside all function that you can find in the books that point is

good for

> the shoulder and arm Pain im looking for some ref. or your experience if

> this point also calm spirit or reduce stress .

>

>

>

> Will appreciate your input, knowledge and self experience.

>

>

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

> Aln

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Aln,

Here is a fun reference:

 

http://www.yinyanghouse.com/acupuncturepoints/th11

 

I would add that I NEVER used this point, until recently where I had a

patient who had weakness in his tricep muscle. It was either in

Guillaume's Rheumatology book or in Deadman's Manual book about using

this point for loss of function. I haven't heard of any relation to

stress or calming Shen in context of TCM. It did work very well for

my patient's loss of function though.

 

Geoff

 

, " aln aln " <aln393 wrote:

>

> Hello all ,

>

>

>

> Yes, I know that we are usually talking about herbs and formulas

>

> But, need your kind help with ref. for point function – TW-11 ( qing

leng

> yuan).

>

>

>

> Beside all function that you can find in the books that point is

good for

> the shoulder and arm Pain im looking for some ref. or your experience if

> this point also calm spirit or reduce stress .

>

>

>

> Will appreciate your input, knowledge and self experience.

>

>

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

> Aln

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Aln -

You might be looking for SJ10 for the Shen effects rather than SJ11.

 

Geoff

 

, " G Hudson " <crudo20 wrote:

>

> Aln,

> Here is a fun reference:

>

> http://www.yinyanghouse.com/acupuncturepoints/th11

>

> I would add that I NEVER used this point, until recently where I had a

> patient who had weakness in his tricep muscle. It was either in

> Guillaume's Rheumatology book or in Deadman's Manual book about using

> this point for loss of function. I haven't heard of any relation to

> stress or calming Shen in context of TCM. It did work very well for

> my patient's loss of function though.

>

> Geoff

>

> , " aln aln " <aln393@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello all ,

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes, I know that we are usually talking about herbs and formulas

> >

> > But, need your kind help with ref. for point function – TW-11 ( qing

> leng

> > yuan).

> >

> >

> >

> > Beside all function that you can find in the books that point is

> good for

> > the shoulder and arm Pain im looking for some ref. or your

experience if

> > this point also calm spirit or reduce stress .

> >

> >

> >

> > Will appreciate your input, knowledge and self experience.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

> > Aln

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Neil,

 

 

Thanks for your answer, it was very helpful. I am not that familiar with

Worsley tradition, but I know it is 5 element approach. What I know that TW

is one of the 4 organs we have in the fire element and TW-10 is the earth

point. Maybe you know and can help me understand why TW-11 can " chill out "

or relax … what relationships she got with the organs or the shen.

 

 

 

Appreciate your assistance and cooperation

 

 

 

Aln

 

 

 

2008/2/27, npregozen <npregozen:

>

>

> Aln,

>

> In the Worsley tradition, the point could definitely be used to help a

> person " chill out " , relax, and refresh themselves by contacting a

> deeper, cool, place within, particularly if you detect a TW imbalance.

> I have found that to be the case when I have been treated with this point.

>

> I hope that is useful,

> Neil Pregozen

>

> --- In

<%40>,

> " aln aln " <aln393 wrote:

> >

> > Hello all ,

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes, I know that we are usually talking about herbs and formulas

> >

> > But, need your kind help with ref. for point function – TW-11 ( qing

> leng

> > yuan).

> >

> >

> >

> > Beside all function that you can find in the books that point is

> good for

> > the shoulder and arm Pain im looking for some ref. or your experience if

> > this point also calm spirit or reduce stress .

> >

> >

> >

> > Will appreciate your input, knowledge and self experience.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

> > Aln

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

thanks for your help , i like the way you look into it....and found it very

interesting

 

have a nice weekend

 

aln

 

 

 

2008/2/29, neil pregozen <npregozen:

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