Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Jeff, I've treated a few cases of vertigo and other forms of disequilibration with herbs and acupuncture but the piece of information I'm going to direct you to is diagnostic. When I asked a neurologist friend of mine about vertigo he suggested that more often than not a physical trauma that results in such s & s has to with the jostling (medical jargon) of the auditory ossicles and that there is actually a set of positional adjustments they'll put someone through that can predictably correct this phenomenon. I know this mostly takes into account what seems like the red herring of your case but it may be a useful lead. Best regards, Ben Zappin, L.Ac. : marinhealth: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 18:01:10 +0000 Case Study: 9 year old boy with Dizziness I am looking for support with this case.Thanks in Advance,Jeffrey Szilagyi L.Ac.5+ weeks.He can't find his equilibrium without holding on to something, needs assistance in walking. Watching him looks rather odd, because his feet and lower body are relatively stable, but his upper body is disoriented, tipsy, he leads with his head. He complains of feeling like the ground is in motion.Onset took place following these factors:Strong sore throat just prior, second of two colds in that time frame.Went to the beach and two days prior- swimming in chilly Pacific in early March. Reports being tumbled by wave. On further questioning doesn't sound that strong of a tumble. Reports feeling a chill after getting out. Also complains of frontal headache, stronger on right side. This is a more recent symptom.Has had battery of tests: CBC, Multiple MRI's , may be looking at spinal tap (any opinions on this)WBC's show Acute Viral Pattern: Functionally higher Total WBC (7.5) Functionally lower Neutrophils (40%) and Functionally high Lymphocytes (46%)Deep Tired Face, a bit sad, with puffiness… since a recent course of prednisone Tx. Which the parents stopped after 3 days.Kid. Pulses deepRemaining pulses: Rapid (108) and very SlipperyI am approaching the case as a trapped EPI (Viral Infection) With heat effecting the Shao Yang Channels and concomitant Spleen def. damp and Kidney Qi def. Initial ATx.: TB 3, TB 17, Sp 9, Herbs: KW's Pediartric Ear Formula 65%+Chuan Xiong 6%Bai Zhi 7%Tian Ma 7%Shi Chang Pu 3%Sheng Jiang 5%Ju Hua 7%Nutritionally, Advising a diet that avoids foods promoting damp in Spleen. _______________ Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_sk\ ydrive_packup_042008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Trauma can cause disturbance of the otoconia (calcium crystals) in the otolith organs(within the inner ear) leading to benign paroxysymal positional vertigo. The diagnostic test is called the Dix-Hallpike maneuver. There is also a treatment for BPPV called the Epley maneuver, which has a high rate of effect (95%), plus it can be taught to patients. Easy to do in a clinic. Spinal tap is standard for children/young adults with an unknown etiology causing neurological sx to rule out CNS infection, esp meningitis. Hope this helps.. Be Ashamed to Die until you have achieved Victory for Humanity!.... --Horace Mann-- ben zappin <btz23 Monday, April 7, 2008 2:26:23 PM RE: Case Study: 9 year old boy with Dizziness Jeff, I've treated a few cases of vertigo and other forms of disequilibration with herbs and acupuncture but the piece of information I'm going to direct you to is diagnostic. When I asked a neurologist friend of mine about vertigo he suggested that more often than not a physical trauma that results in such s & s has to with the jostling (medical jargon) of the auditory ossicles and that there is actually a set of positional adjustments they'll put someone through that can predictably correct this phenomenon. I know this mostly takes into account what seems like the red herring of your case but it may be a useful lead. Best regards, Ben Zappin, L.Ac. : marinhealth: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 18:01:10 +0000 Case Study: 9 year old boy with Dizziness I am looking for support with this case.Thanks in Advance,Jeffrey Szilagyi L.Ac.5+ weeks.He can't find his equilibrium without holding on to something, needs assistance in walking. Watching him looks rather odd, because his feet and lower body are relatively stable, but his upper body is disoriented, tipsy, he leads with his head. He complains of feeling like the ground is in motion.Onset took place following these factors:Strong sore throat just prior, second of two colds in that time frame.Went to the beach and two days prior- swimming in chilly Pacific in early March. Reports being tumbled by wave. On further questioning doesn't sound that strong of a tumble. Reports feeling a chill after getting out. Also complains of frontal headache, stronger on right side. This is a more recent symptom.Has had battery of tests: CBC, Multiple MRI's , may be looking at spinal tap (any opinions on this)WBC's show Acute Viral Pattern: Functionally higher Total WBC (7.5) Functionally lower Neutrophils (40%) and Functionally high Lymphocytes (46%)Deep Tired Face, a bit sad, with puffiness… since a recent course of prednisone Tx. Which the parents stopped after 3 days.Kid. Pulses deepRemaining pulses: Rapid (108) and very SlipperyI am approaching the case as a trapped EPI (Viral Infection) With heat effecting the Shao Yang Channels and concomitant Spleen def. damp and Kidney Qi def. Initial ATx.: TB 3, TB 17, Sp 9, Herbs: KW's Pediartric Ear Formula 65%+Chuan Xiong 6%Bai Zhi 7%Tian Ma 7%Shi Chang Pu 3%Sheng Jiang 5%Ju Hua 7%Nutritionally, Advising a diet that avoids foods promoting damp in Spleen. _______________ Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_sk\ ydrive_packup_042008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 , Anton Borja <its_antonborja wrote: >Given the slippery and rapid pulses and the indication of viral infection one might tend to think of dampness and heat. Inner ear viral infections can go on for 2 to 3 months and sometimes will chronically return if not totally treated. I have had good success in these cases using a decoction or powder which is 50/50 actractylodes and alisma. Ususally within2 or 3 days things clearup. The formual is very drying, so shouldn't be taken for very long. Pauline Vaughan M.A.(Psych.) D.AC Natural Medicine Clinic 54 Poyntz Street Penetanguishene, ON L9M 1N6 > Trauma can cause disturbance of the otoconia (calcium crystals) in the otolith organs(within the inner ear) leading to benign paroxysymal positional vertigo. The diagnostic test is called the Dix-Hallpike maneuver. There is also a treatment for BPPV called the Epley maneuver, which has a high rate of effect (95%), plus it can be taught to patients. Easy to do in a clinic. > > Spinal tap is standard for children/young adults with an unknown etiology causing neurological sx to rule out CNS infection, esp meningitis. > > Hope this helps.. > > > > Be Ashamed to Die until you have achieved Victory for Humanity!.... > --Horace Mann-- > > > > ben zappin <btz23 > > Monday, April 7, 2008 2:26:23 PM > RE: Case Study: 9 year old boy with Dizziness > > > Jeff, > I've treated a few cases of vertigo and other forms of disequilibration with herbs and acupuncture but the piece of information I'm going to direct you to is diagnostic. When I asked a neurologist friend of mine about vertigo he suggested that more often than not a physical trauma that results in such s & s has to with the jostling (medical jargon) of the auditory ossicles and that there is actually a set of positional adjustments they'll put someone through that can predictably correct this phenomenon. I know this mostly takes into account what seems like the red herring of your case but it may be a useful lead. > Best regards, > Ben Zappin, L.Ac. > > > : marinhealth: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 18:01:10 +0000Subject: Case Study: 9 year old boy with Dizziness > > > > > I am looking for support with this case.Thanks in Advance,Jeffrey Szilagyi L.Ac.5+ weeks.He can't find his equilibrium without holding on to something, needs assistance in walking. Watching him looks rather odd, because his feet and lower body are relatively stable, but his upper body is disoriented, tipsy, he leads with his head. He complains of feeling like the ground is in motion.Onset took place following these factors:Strong sore throat just prior, second of two colds in that time frame.Went to the beach and two days prior- swimming in chilly Pacific in early March. Reports being tumbled by wave. On further questioning doesn't sound that strong of a tumble. Reports feeling a chill after getting out. Also complains of frontal headache, stronger on right side. This is a more recent symptom.Has had battery of tests: CBC, Multiple MRI's , may be looking at spinal tap (any opinions on this)WBC's show Acute Viral Pattern: Functionally higher Total WBC > (7.5) Functionally lower Neutrophils (40%) and Functionally high Lymphocytes (46%)Deep Tired Face, a bit sad, with puffiness… since a recent course of prednisone Tx. Which the parents stopped after 3 days.Kid. Pulses deepRemaining pulses: Rapid (108) and very SlipperyI am approaching the case as a trapped EPI (Viral Infection) With heat effecting the Shao Yang Channels and concomitant Spleen def. damp and Kidney Qi def. Initial ATx.: TB 3, TB 17, Sp 9, Herbs: KW's Pediartric Ear Formula 65%+Chuan Xiong 6%Bai Zhi 7%Tian Ma 7%Shi Chang Pu 3%Sheng Jiang 5%Ju Hua 7%Nutritionally, Advising a diet that avoids foods promoting damp in Spleen. _______________ > Pack up or back up†" use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. > hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html? ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_packup_042008 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Jeff, Have they ruled out viral labyrinthitis? The middle ear gets affected after a viral infection. It can last from a few days to a few months. Any movement of the head incraeses the dizziness. If that's what it is, Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao Wan can help if the pattern fits it. Somewhat similar to your formula. - Bill Schoenbart , " jeffreyszilagyi " <marinhealth wrote: > > I am looking for support with this case. > Thanks in Advance, > Jeffrey Szilagyi L.Ac. > > > 5+ weeks. > He can't find his equilibrium without holding on to something, needs > assistance in walking. Watching him looks rather odd, because his > feet and lower body are relatively stable, but his upper body is > disoriented, tipsy, he leads with his head. He complains of feeling > like the ground is in motion. > > Onset took place following these factors: > Strong sore throat just prior, second of two colds in that time frame. > Went to the beach and two days prior- swimming in chilly Pacific in > early March. Reports being tumbled by wave. On further questioning > doesn't sound that strong of a tumble. Reports feeling a chill after > getting out. > > Also complains of frontal headache, stronger on right side. This is a > more recent symptom. > > Has had battery of tests: CBC, Multiple MRI's , may be looking at > spinal tap (any opinions on this) > WBC's show Acute Viral Pattern: Functionally higher Total WBC (7.5) > Functionally lower Neutrophils (40%) and Functionally high > Lymphocytes (46%) > > Deep Tired Face, a bit sad, with puffiness… since a recent course of > prednisone Tx. Which the parents stopped after 3 days. > Kid. Pulses deep > Remaining pulses: Rapid (108) and very Slippery > I am approaching the case as a trapped EPI (Viral Infection) > With heat effecting the Shao Yang Channels and concomitant Spleen > def. damp and Kidney Qi def. > Initial ATx.: TB 3, TB 17, Sp 9, > Herbs: KW's Pediartric Ear Formula 65% > + > Chuan Xiong 6% > Bai Zhi 7% > Tian Ma 7% > Shi Chang Pu 3% > Sheng Jiang 5% > Ju Hua 7% > Nutritionally, Advising a diet that avoids foods promoting damp in > Spleen. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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