Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Louis - I certainly appreciate the attention you have placed upon my work. I do wish to make a distinction. The *ruo mai* is not the same as what Hammer calls the 'cotton' pulse. John HF Shen called it a sad, depressed or *yu *pulse. The *ruo mai* is deep weak and thready. I think that I was likely not clear when I said that people often conflate the *ruo mai *with the cotton pulse. The article can be downloaded at http://www.pulsediagnosis.com/IntegrativeMedicineandtheCottonPulse.htm, or one can also just click on http://www.pulsediagnosis.com and navigate there. Pulses that demonstrate hidden evils include distortions in the arrival of the wave. In the anatomical method, the *mo yuan *may also be palpated . This is the area which is the distal aspect of Shen's diaphragm pulse. Re: More on Hidden Evi </message/42548;_ylc=X3oDMTJxbDE\ xMmY0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzIwMTAxMwRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjA4MTUEbXNnSWQDNDI1NDg\ Ec2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTIwODQ3MjczOQ--> Posted by: " Louis Womack " louis.womack <louis.womack?Subject=+Re%3A%20More%20on%20Hidden%20Evils> tolvmanne <http://profiles./tolvmanne> Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:48 pm (PDT) Hi Bob and all other contibutors on this subject My immediate reaction to this text on evil qi becoming depressed, not being thust out and Yin qi being " quilted " brings to mind an article by William Morris on the Cotton (ruo mai), deep, weak, floating and slow pulses, and poor lymph return with all which that entails- Spleen Xu, Kidney Yang Xu, Heart Qi & Yang Xu, Damp accumulation and even Yin Fire. Louis http://www.pulsediagnosis.com/IntegrativeMedicineandtheCottonPulse.htm <%40>, " Bob Flaws " <pemachophel2001 wrote: > > Just reading an article on hidden evil warm diseases (fy xie wen bing) > in issue #1, 2008 of Bei Jing Zhong Yi Yao (Bejing & > Pharmacology). > > On the different types of hidden evils, quoting the Qing dynasty Wen > Re Feng Yuan (Penetrating Insight into Warm Heat) it says: " When one > contracts the six environmental excesses and these do not result in > [immediate] disease but [disease] occurs a long time later, these are > called hidden evils... Hidden evils are hidden dryness, hidden cold, > hidden wind, hidden dampness, [and] hidden heat. " So, according to > this book, at least five of the six environmental excesses can become > hidden evils. However, later in this article, it talks about > summerheat evils also becoming hidden evils when mixed with either > cold or dampness. > > According to the same book (Wen Re Feng Yuan), if " these [hidden > evils] damage (shang) a person, they lead to kidney qi vacuity. " > > " Hidden storage " (fu zang) is where the hidden evils are located or > stored in the body. This becomes clear when the author quotes various > books about hidden evils being stored (zang) in the skin, stored in > the bones, stored in the membranes, or stored in the bone marrow. > > According to the author of the Wen Re Feng Yuan, there are three > mechanisms whereby hidden evils can be produced: > > 1. Evil qi becomes depressed [and therefore] lies deeply (or hides) > and is not out-thrust > > 2. Righteous qi is not able to out-thrust the evils > > 3. Yin qi is " quilted, " i.e., muffled, burns or is scorched, and is > dried up > > In terms of general characteristics, Ding Lei, the author of the > journal article, says diseases due to hidden evils are insidious in > nature, relatively serious, transform patterns quite a lot, have a > long course, and are difficult to cure. > Back to top <http://?ui=2 & view=bsp & ver=ymdfwq781tpu#1195e96ad96b36cf_toc> Reply to sender <louis.womack?Subject=Re%3A%20More%20on%20Hidden%20Evils> | Reply to group < ?Subject=+Re%3A%20More%20on%20Hidden%20Evils>\ | Reply via web post </post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMmgycnBiBF9T\ Azk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzIwMTAxMwRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjA4MTUEbXNnSWQDNDI1NDgEc2VjA2Rt\ c2cEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTIwODQ3MjczOQ--?act=reply & messageNum=42548> Messages in this topic </message/42529;_ylc=X3oDMTM2bzR\ kY2lhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzIwMTAxMwRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjA4MTUEbXNnSWQDNDI1NDg\ Ec2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTIwODQ3MjczOQR0cGNJZAM0MjUyOQ-->(13) 3a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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