Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Hi Sean & All, Sean Doherty wrote > If an herb courses wind is it also promoting/causing wind? I am reading > Western Herbs according to TCM where it is written that Lobelia > extinguishes and alleviates spam. by causing and downbearing wind. I > tried looking up definitions but haven't found a clarification.Sean Banbianlian-Hb+Rx Lobeliae Radicantis usually is listed under Hbs to Clear Heat + Toxin; few of my reference sources list it as an herb to Course Wind, but it is used to treat infantile convulsions & spasms. As a student (novice) in TCM theory, my understanding of the English term " Course Wind " (Pinyin: Shufeng) is similar to that of the term Shugan (Course Liver = Disperse LV Qizhi / Stag / Depression), i.e. Shufeng = Disperse Wind, especially Internal Wind, as in LV Wind Uprising. Is my understanding correct? The following terms are used in relation to treating various Wind Patterns: An1 Feng1 (Calm / Settle Wind) Chu2 Feng1 (Eliminate Wind) San4 Feng1 (Scatter / Disperse Wind) Sou1 Feng1 (Search / Chase Wind) Xiao1 Feng1 (Reduce / Lessen Wind) Zhui1 Feng1 (Pursue Wind) (a) Qu1 Feng1 (Dispel Wind) (b) Qu1 Feng1 (Expel Wind) (a) Shu1 Feng1 (Course Wind) (b) Shu1 Feng1 (Course Wind) The apparent duplicates, (a & b above), refer to two different Hanzi terms each. Would TCM experts care to discuss the niceties of each of those expressions and explain the differences (if any) between them? Best regards, See detailed monograsph on a related species, Lobelia inflata at http://tinyurl.com/6yqcj8 Best regards, HOME + WORK: 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel: (H): +353-(0); VOIP Number: +353-1482-7068; Tel: (M): +353-(0) < " Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt woman doing it " - Chinese Proverb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 , " " < wrote: > As a student (novice) in TCM theory, my understanding of the English > term " Course Wind " (Pinyin: Shufeng) is similar to that of the term > Shugan (Course Liver = Disperse LV Qizhi / Stag / Depression), i.e. > Shufeng = Disperse Wind, especially Internal Wind, as in LV Wind > Uprising. > > Is my understanding correct? Phil, in Chinese shu feng (course wind) uses the same shu as in shu gan (course the liver), although one should note that two different characters describing a treatment action for the liver both share the sound shu1 (one is translated as " course, " the other is translated as " soothe " ). However, for internal wind, I don't recall ever seeing the treatment method " shu feng " appear. Usually the key word here is " xi feng " (extinguish wind). Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Phil and all, The Western species of Lobelia is very different from the Chinese species of Lobelia. I must admit I did not compare them in the book, although in retrospect I probably should have. Thomas Beijing, China Author of Western Herbs According to Traditional : A Practitioners Guide www.sourcepointherbs.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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