Plaster instead of steaming for disc disease / back pain / muscle trauma?

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> Tom, how many sessions of steaming were needed for best result?

>

Hi Phil,

 

the article said that 10 sessions were considered as one course of

treatment. One course of treatment was all they mentioned. I have

never done it myself so I can't really comment. Many hospitals in

China (as well as massage parlors) do have those steaming machines though.

 

>

> Tom, do you think that this [using a plaster instead of steaming]

might work just as well as steaming?

 

The article mentioned that the (high) temperature of the steaming was

part of the treatment effect, perhaps not unlike physiotherapists

around here that use hot fango (some kind of mud from Italy) in back pain.

 

Having said that, I had co-students in Nanjing that absolutely loved

those herbal plasters that seemed to create a feeling of heat all by

themselves.

 

So yes I'm sure that one can make a nice plaster from formulas like

the one from the article. Good plasters are kind of hard to get here

in Belgium- does ayone have a good source in Europe?

 

Best,

 

Tom.

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> Would addition of some DMSO enhance the effect?

>

> Best regards,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tom,

 

Tom wrote:

> from another article by Su Ju-Jian and Hu Yi-cheng (Chinese J Trad Med

> Trauma Orthop, October 2005, Vol. 13, No. 5): Study on Therapies of

> Prolapse of lumbar Intervertebral disc by 2168 Cases. It summarizes

> several treatment (including surgery) for treatment of disc prolapse. It

> has one section on fuming and steaming with the following formula:

>

> ru xiang 10

> mo yao 10

> tao ren 10

> hong hua 10

> chi shao 10

> ze lan 10

> yan hu suo 10

> dan shen 10

> chuan xiong 10

> kuan jin teng 10 (Tinosporae Sinensis Caulis)

> shen jin cao 10

> chuan niu xi 15

> dang gui 10

> bo he nao 6 (Menthol)

> zhang nao 6 (Camphor)

> san qi 10

>

> 30 mins of steaming

 

Tom, how many sessions of steaming were needed for best result?

 

IMO, it is impractical in western practice to ask clients to come in

for steaming more than twice. However, if one could make a plaster

for daily application, it might me more useful. For example,

converting your doses to percentages, one could make a plaster as

follows:

 

(%) Herb [ & main actions]

 

3.8 Bohenao [Clear Wind Heat; Cool Xue; Antiinflammation; Analgesic;

Ease Itch];

 

6.4 Chishao [Cool Xue; Clear Heat + Toxin; Disperse Xueyu];

 

6.3 Shenjincao [Disperse Wind Damp + Expel Cold; Disperse Wind Cold

Damp Bi; Antirheumatic; Quicken Xue; Lessen Swelling;

Antiinflammation; Relax Sinew; Analgesic];

 

6.4 Kuanjinteng [Disperse Wind Damp; Disperse Xueyu; Analgesic];

 

9.6 Niuxi (Chuan) [Disperse Xueyu; Clear Damp Heat; Strengthen loin &

knees; Nourish Sinew & Bone; Relax Muscle + Tendon];

 

6.4 Danshen [Disperse Xueyu; Clear Heat; Cool Xue];

 

6.4 Ruxiang [Disperse Xueyu; Lessen Swelling; Analgesic; Disperse

Qizhi];

 

6.3 Zelan [Disperse Xueyu; Free Menses Lessen Swelling; Haemostat];

 

6.4 Sanqi [Disperse Xueyu; Haemostat; Lessen Swelling; Analgesic];

 

6.4 Moyao [Disperse Xueyu; Lessen Swelling; Disperse Qizhi;

Analgesic];

 

6.3 Taoren [Disperse Xueyu; Rectify Menses**; Reduce Clumps; Smash

Abscess];

 

6.4 Honghua [Disperse Xueyu; Vasodilator];

 

6.4 Chuanxiong [Disperse Xueyu~ Analgesic; Anticoagulant /

Antithrombus; Disperse Wind Cold; Dispel Damp Bi; Antiinflammation ];

 

 

6.3 Yanhusuo [Disperse Xueyu~ Analgesic; Disperse Qizhi];

 

3.8 Zhangnao [EXTERNAL use; Open Portals~ aromatic; Penetrate; Expel

Sepsis / Turbidity; Disperse Damp; Disperse Wind Damp;

Antiinflammation; Ease Itch; Lessen Swelling; Analgesic]

 

6.4 Danggui [Tone Xue; Disperse Xueyu; increase peripheral

circulation; Antiinflammation; Analgesic];

 

Grind Hbs finely & mix qs to make paste w Heizhimayou (Sesame Oil) &

Bimayou (Castor Oil) (50 / 50); apply paste as a warm plaster to pain

area, like loin pain / lumbar disc prolapse area; replace plaster

daily

 

Tom, do you think that this might work just as well as steaming?

 

Would addition of some DMSO enhance the effect?

 

Best regards,