Han lian cao vs Mo han lian Yehuda

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Yehuda,

 

Yes. same herb. John Chen still calls it Han lian cao.

Bensky called it Han lian cao in the 2nd edition Materia Medica.

 

Now, he's calling it Mo han lian, because,

" the use of the abbreviated names han lian or han lian cao should be

avoided, as it allows for possible confusion with the highly toxic drug

Campthotheca acuminata (xi shu) for which han lian is a synonym " pg. 837

3rd ed MM

 

Interesting thing is that the team didn't add in the commentary that Mo han

lian is picked at the summer solstice and Nu zhen zi at the winter solstice,

the two ultimate yang and yin times of the year. This idea is written into

the formula: Er zhi wan " Two ultimate pill " (pg 274 in Formulas and

Strategies).

 

K.

 

 

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 5:37 PM,

wrote:

 

> Hi Kokko,

>

> Is Mo Han Lian related to Han Lian Cao?

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> --- On Mon, 7/21/08, <johnkokko<johnkokko%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

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> <johnkokko <johnkokko%40gmail.com>>

> Re: Re: gum and bone loss

> <%40>

> Monday, July 21, 2008, 4:05 PM

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>

> Hi Andrea,

>

> a dui yao for yin def heat (menopausal symptoms) could by Mo han lian and

> Nu

> zhen zi.

> They are not cloying, nourish the LV/KD yin, blackens the hair, are cooling

> and Mo han lian is specifically known for solidifying loose teeth.

>

> Also in the tonify yin category, Gui ban can (cold) can strengthen bones

> and

> anchor yang.

>

> Could these be added to the herbs that Bill suggested?

> K.

>

> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:06 PM, < >

> wrote:

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> > Thanks, Bill. I was also thinking about the bone-strengthening herbs,

> > but was concerned about them being too warming... Do you have experience

> > with using these for bone loss in

> > menopausal women with " power surges " ?

> >

> >

> > Andrea Beth

> >

> >

> > Traditional Oriental Medicine

> > Happy Hours in the CALM Center

> > 753 N. Main Street, Suite C-1

> > Cottonwood, AZ 86326

> > (928) 274-1373

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> > --- On Mon, 7/21/08, bill_schoenbart <plantmed2<plantmed2%40gmail.

com>>

> > wrote:

> > bill_schoenbart <plantmed2 (AT) gmail (DOT) com <plantmed2%40gmail. com>>

> > Re: gum and bone loss

> > <

> %40. com>

> > Monday, July 21, 2008, 12:47 PM

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> > I have seen this in an otherwise healthy patient who had a very-low-

> > protein diet. In your case, if it's genetic, I would use the

> > bone-strengthening herbs in the Tonify Kidney category, such as Xu

> > Duan, Ba Ji Tian, Lu Rong, Gui Ban, Gu Sui Bu, Gou Ji, and Du Zhong.

> >

> > Gotu Kola should help strengthen the connective tissue in the sockets.

> > It can be purchased as an extract. If you have a greenhouse, you could

> > grow it and drink the juice.

> >

> > - Bill Schoenbart

> >

> > <

> %40. com>,

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> >

> > <@.. .> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > >

> > > Despite great hygiene and very clean teeth, I am experiencing rapid

> > gum recession and now also some bone loss around my teeth.� The

> > recession was pretty gradual until I started transitioning in to

> > menopause a year or so ago.� My dentist tells me she's never seen a

> > cleaner mouth, but is concerned about the recession, especially since

> > my front lower teeth are starting to loosen.� I will be seeing a

> > periodontist this week, but want to know if anyone knows of herbal

> > formulas that can assist in regeneration of both, gum tissue and

> > bone.� Apparently, this is genetic - my mom experienced the same

> > thing, and despite transplanting tissue from the roof of her mouth to

> > her gumline, she still ended up needing bone grafts for dental

> > implants. I'd love to avoid all of that, if possible.� Anyone have

> > good results with our medicine?

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance,

> > > Andrea Beth

> > >

> > >

> > > Traditional Oriental Medicine

> > > Happy Hours in the CALM Center

> > > 753 N. Main Street, Suite C-1

> > > Cottonwood, AZ� 86326

> > > (928) 274-1373

> > >

> > >

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