Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Does anyone have a good bone mending powder (external) recipe they can share? Thanks, -Jason <http://maps./py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap & addr=2600+30th+Street%2C+Suite+20 0 & csz=Boulder%2C+Co & country=us> 2600 30th Street, Suite 200 Boulder, Co 80301 <http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_simple_sig<=en> Want a signature like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Hi Jason, You can find a description of my Bone Mending Poultice here http://www.herbanpharmer.com/bmp.html While I am not necessarily willing to share the specific recipe, the ingredients are listed alphabetically and in order of weight. Many of you should recognize the many dui yaos within this formulation, and perhaps a few will recognize that much of it is based on historically used poultices, while bridging the politics of particular martial art traditions. This particular recipe follow pretty closely that as written by Justin Erlich in Matt Callison's class manual " Treatment of Orothopedic Disorders " , Feb, 2000 though the proportions have been altered according to more recent clinical feedback, research, and the quality of the herbs as they presented through the years. I have spent the past few years interning for Matt at AcuSport. In addition to his frequent use of this poultice, I have also used it in my own herbal pracice. I must admit, the idea of it raises many eyebrows among those less experienced... I would like to invite any discussion as to an appropriate substitution for the tu bie chong/ eupolyphaga. While I can certainly read the texts avaialable in English for a replacement and am indeed trying an alternate combination, and I know quite well that this list is replete with theorists, I am wondering specifically if anyone might have direct experience and/or knowledge to share in this situation of conscience sensitivity towards using animal (even bug) products. Remember, this question is about substitutions for the like of tu bie chong in a particular poultice for the external application of a bone mending herbal. Hope this helps Jason, and to all TIA, Paul , " " wrote: > > Does anyone have a good bone mending powder (external) recipe they can > share? > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Jason > > > > > > > > <http://maps./py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap & addr=2600+30th+Street%2C+Suite+20 > 0 & csz=Boulder%2C+Co & country=us> 2600 30th Street, Suite 200 > Boulder, Co > 80301 > > > > > > > > <http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_simple_sig<=en> Want a > signature like this? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 , " pdgamache2 " <pdgamache wrote: > I would like to invite any discussion as to an appropriate > substitution for the tu bie chong/ eupolyphaga. > Remember, this question is about substitutions for the like of tu bie > chong in a particular poultice for the external application of a bone > mending herbal. According to standard Chinese medical theory, I think most people would support the view that tu bie chong has no precise substitute for this purpose. It is a strongly blood-moving medicinal that specifically is used externally to treat bone fractures, so its action is quite tailored to this particular context. Basic theory classifies insect products into a distinct category with specific effects (mobile and penetrating), so I think most conservative doctors would say that no perfect substitute for tu bie chong exists if bugs are off limits. Of course, there are other bone-mending mineral and plant products, such as zi ran tong and su mu, but these are often included with tu bie chong in the final prescription anyway. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Eric, Thank you for your response, and while only you can articulate such a response, as your particular experience is altogether unlike any other's, I forgive you for responding in contradiction to my very specific challenge of not responding based on theory.;-) Indeed, I am humbly and continuously grateful to have you as my teacher and friend. I must say, though, and to all, that my original question remains. While perhaps my semantics may not be precise, the intention certainly is, and that is one that requests the shared experiences and challenges that you active practitioners face in an evermore consciously evolving world. Perhaps this simple query really does represent a medical-political evolution that has not yet realized fruition. But, I say, to grow fruit we must first cast the seeds to the winds. -Paul , " Eric Brand " <smilinglotus wrote: > > , " pdgamache2 " > <pdgamache@> wrote: > > I would like to invite any discussion as to an appropriate > > substitution for the tu bie chong/ eupolyphaga. > > Remember, this question is about substitutions for the like of tu bie > > chong in a particular poultice for the external application of a bone > > mending herbal. > > According to standard Chinese medical theory, I think most people > would support the view that tu bie chong has no precise substitute for > this purpose. It is a strongly blood-moving medicinal that > specifically is used externally to treat bone fractures, so its action > is quite tailored to this particular context. Basic theory classifies > insect products into a distinct category with specific effects (mobile > and penetrating), so I think most conservative doctors would say that > no perfect substitute for tu bie chong exists if bugs are off limits. > > Of course, there are other bone-mending mineral and plant products, > such as zi ran tong and su mu, but these are often included with tu > bie chong in the final prescription anyway. > > Eric > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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