Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Hi All, & Laura, Laura wrote: > Hi, Anyone have knowledge/experience with using Kelp for low thyroid? > I'd like to hear how effective it is and if there are any side effects > / potential problems. Also, is Kun Bu exactly the same as Kelp that can > be bought at health food stores? Also, anyone know if kelp is safe in > pregnancy? Great question! Undoubtedly, humans and animals with low iodine (I) status benefit from an I supplement. But the DOSE MUST BE CORRECT; too little is ineffective and too much can be subtoxic, thyrotoxic, or acutely toxic (depending on the amount of I /day). If one abides by the US-RDA for adult human iodine supplements (1 mg I/day), one would give NO MORE than 1.1g dried seaweed/day. Some sources advise CAUTION (or CI) with Kunbu or Haizao in late pregnancy. See: http://tinyurl.com/5zek2zThe basis of this statement is explained in detail below. I have no experience of seaweed use in pregnant humans, but there are definite warnings from veterinary publications in pregnant mares. Trace-element research (including research on I supplementation of animals) paid my rent for 41 years! Excerpt from " IODINE SUPPLEMENTATION OF CATTLE " - End of Project Report: Project No. 4381 by Philip A.M. Rogers MVB, MRCVS, Grange Research Centre, Dunsany, Co. Meath. 4 December 1999 [ http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/i_report.htm ] " ... milk products supply up to 50% or more of human dietary I (as iodide) intake. High I intakes can cause thyrotoxicosis in humans. The threat is greatest to infants fed large amounts of milk powder with excessive levels of I. The American NRC recommends a maximum of 1000 ug I/d (1 mg I) as safe for adult humans. From pre-1970 to 1978, milk I levels in American bulk-tanks increased so that a daily intake of 500-1000 ml milk from some farms (1000-2000 ug/L) and 125-500 ml of heavily contaminated milk (2000-8000 ug/L) would exceed the safe human adult dose (Hemken 1979)... " NOTE that the US-RDA allows 1mg I /day as the SAFE level for adult humans. I would use a supplement of up to 3 mg I / day for adult humans, but NOT in late pregnancy [see below]! Seaweed is VERY high in I. Dried seaweed contains circa 600-1200+ mg I /kg. Late abortions and birth of foals with TOXIC goitres are documented if mares receive a supplement of circa 30mg I (or more) /day in late pregnancy. Assuming a mare body-weight of circa 500 kg, the thyro-TOXIC dose for mares is circa 6mg I/100kg LW. Assuming a human female LW of 50-80kg [say 65kg], an equivalent potentially thyroTOXIC dose for late-pregnant women would be circa 3- 4.8 mg [say 3.9 mg] I/day. Assuming that dried seaweed has a mean of 900mg I/kg DM the potentially thyroTOXIC dose to late-pregnant females would be circa 3.3-5.3 [say 4.3] g dried seaweed/d http://tinyurl.com/6mckzv says: Maternal hyperthyroidism during the third trimester of pregnancy independently increases the risk of low [baby] birth weight by 4·1-fold. Appropriate management of hyperthyroidism throughout pregnancy is essential in the prevention of this undesirable neonatal outcome. See also [Google]: http://tinyurl.com/5qfy5p BOTTOM LINE: If one abides by the US-RDA for adult human iodine supplements (1 mg I/day), one would give NO MORE than 1.1g dried seaweed/day. Some sources advise CAUTION (or CI) with Kunbu or Haizao in late pregnancy. See: http://tinyurl.com/5zek2z Best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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