Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Hi, I have been treating someone herbally for an ovarian cyst and mass for over a month now. Her MD recommended birth control pills, but she chose not to take them. I have seen 2 cycles now, and in both, her cramps were more mild, and she is passing " chunks. " Are the chunks a sign that the cyst and mass are passing through? Her ultrasound is scheduled for January, so I'd like some advice as to prognosis, if the mass and cyst will be gone or greatly reduced by then. I have given her modified versions of Gui Zhi Fu Ling Wan. If you have experience with this, please share. Thanks! Lindsey Seigle Slott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Lindsey - You say ovarian cyst and mass. Does that mean that the cyst and mass are separate, i.e. a cyst and a polyp, or do you mean the mass is the cyst? If her OBGYN recommended the OCP, it means that her cysts are probably functional ovarian cysts, as opposed to chocolate cysts/endometriomas. Because functional cysts can cause disruptions in normal menstrual cycle intervals, and prevent the start of planned ovulation induction for IUI or IVF, and occasionally rupture quite painfully - they are usually managed with OCP's to shut down the HPO axis and deprive the cyst of the stimulus (FSH) that keeps it hanging around. If it proves to be a stubborn cyst, or very large and uncomfortable, the doctor will sometimes aspirate and drain it surgically. It's possible that some of the tissue (chunks) that the patient is passing is the ovarian cyst breaking down, but it's also possible that the cyst is secreting such high amounts of Estradiol that it is causing her to have a thicker endometrial lining than normal, and so it is sloughing off larger pieces than usual. It sounds like you are on the right track herbally. Gui Zhi Fu Ling Wan is a good guiding formula for ovarian cysts, as is Shao Fu Zhu Yu Tang (because it goes to the lesser abdomen/Shao Fu area of the left and right lower quadrants where the ovaries reside). Herbs to modify either of the above in order to increase its' ability to break down the cysts are: Li Zhi He(Litchi) Xiang Fu/Cyperus Chuan Lian Zi/Melia Xia Ku Cao/Prunella Chuan Shan Jia/Squamus Zhi Bei Mu/Fritillaria Di Long/Lumbricus Also, Kiiko Matsumoto recommends that use of direct rice grain moxa (15-30) on Liver 8 for any type of pelvic inflammation or stasis (cysts, endometriosis, myomas) Hope this helps, Ray Rubio, D.A.O.M. (FABORM) www.westlakecomplementarymedicine.com On Nov 5, 2008, at 6:02 AM, Lindsey Seigle Slott wrote: > Hi, > > I have been treating someone herbally for an ovarian cyst and mass > for over a month now. Her MD recommended birth control pills, but > she chose not to take them. I have seen 2 cycles now, and in both, > her cramps were more mild, and she is passing " chunks. " Are the > chunks a sign that the cyst and mass are passing through? Her > ultrasound is scheduled for January, so I'd like some advice as to > prognosis, if the mass and cyst will be gone or greatly reduced by > then. I have given her modified versions of Gui Zhi Fu Ling Wan. If > you have experience with this, please share. Thanks! > > Lindsey Seigle Slott > > Ray Rubio, D.A.O.M. President/CEO ABORM Westlake Complementary Medicine 900 Hampshire Road, Suite B/C Westlake Village, CA 91361 Phone: (805) 497-1335 Fax: (805) 497-1336 email: rtoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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