Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I guess younger tcm students/practitioners are more interested to learn the pharmaceutical aspects of dan shen (salvia) rather than knowing its tcm medicinal actions of ¡¥stasis-dispersing, blood- invigorating, and clearing the heart to remove vexation¡¦ that seems abstract. 1. Its medicinal actions manifested in the cardio blood vessels system: a) It can strengthen the heart and expand blood vessels. It can expand the coronary and therefore can treat myocardial infarction. The blood flow increases in all the blood vessels in the heart and limbs except the brain. Therefore, it can clear vexation as the hyperactive blood pressure is lowered. b) It can stop the formation of thrombus. It can promote the dissolution of fibrin; therefore it can deform thrombus; c) It can improve micro- circulation. By doing so, it can repair the damaged tissues. 2. It can be spirit-calming as it can decrease the brain wave activity in laboratory animals. 3. It can diminish the liver swelling (due to improving micro- circulation of the liver). Despite its modern approach, it is of little use for tcm practitioners to make a decent prescription. My point is: clincial efficacy counts a lot of a decent mentor when it comes to learning tcm. SUNG, Yuk-mingI guess younger tcm students/practitioners are more interested to learn the pharmaceutical aspects of dan shen (salvia) rather than knowing its tcm medicinal actions of ¡¥stasis-dispersing, blood-invigorating, and clearing the heart to remove vexation¡¦ that seems abstract. 1. Its medicinal actions manifested in the cardio blood vessels system: a) It can strengthen the heart and expand blood vessels. It can expand the coronary and therefore can treat myocardial infarction. The blood flow increases in all the blood vessels in the heart and limbs except the brain. Therefore, it can clear vexation as the hyperactive blood pressure is lowered. b) It can stop the formation of thrombus. It can promote the dissolution of fibrin; therefore it can deform thrombus; c) It can improve micro- circulation. By doing so, it can repair the damaged tissues. 2. It can be spirit-calming as it can decrease the brain wave activity in laboratory animals. 3. It can diminish the liver swelling (due to improving micro- circulation of the liver). Despite its modern approach, it is of little use for tcm practitioners to make a decent prescription. My point is: clincial efficacy counts a lot of a decent mentor when it comes to learning tcm. SUNG, Yuk-ming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 I agree. And furthermore there is now much debate now about the actual effects they have attributed to dan shen. The early experiments were seemingly flawed. As with most Western medicine, give it a few years and it will probably change. -Jason On Behalf Of leach_rachel Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:41 AM Re: Pharmaceutical apsects of dan shen (salvia) " SUNG, Yuk-mingI guess younger tcm students/practition ers are more interested to learn the pharmaceutical aspects of dan shen (salvia) rather than knowing its tcm medicinal actions of ¡¥stasis-dispersing, blood-invigorating, and clearing the heart to remove vexation¡¦ that seems abstract. " I completely disagree. I fully appreciate TCM practitioners who can explain TCM in TCM terms and not try to put a western twist to it due to an inability to understand TCM terminology. Sung Yuk-ming's explination was clear, concise and insightful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Jason, Thanks for your insightful comments, as always. As Chairman Mao put it, CM is a great treasure and we should continuously dig more out of it. Contemporary graduate students of tcm universities endlessly explore the modern pharmceutical aspects of herbal medicine. The more we understand individual medicinal, the more we are amazed at the wisdom of the ancient. Majority of the newly found pharmaceutical knowledge only reinforce and confirm what we already know. SUNG, Yuk-ming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 7:58 AM, sxm2649 <sxm2649 wrote: > Majority of the newly found pharmaceutical knowledge > only reinforce and confirm what we already know. > However, there are ideological forces out there that suggest since we now know what herbs are " really " doing, we can stop studying traditional functions, indications, etc. That's the downside of biomedical confirmations. -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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