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Doug,

You'll be happy to know that the " Currents of Tradition " text is

just the groundwork for texts on the prescriptions and medical

treatment of such physicians as Fei Bo-xiong mentioned in the book.

Also, I am sure that the new version of " Formulas and Strategies "

released in January will have hints of this material as well.

 

 

 

 

On Nov 20, 2008, at 12:06 PM, wrote:

 

> I'd have to go back to the book to quote the text but I think we can

> say he was " best known " as a teacher and administrator advocate. I was

> kind of inspired to read that Qin first created the charts that we now

> use so often to explain patterns and organ functions.

>

> Tell you the truth, I am a bit ambivalent about the Scheid book. I can

> appreciate the scholarship and am glad for it but I would have rather

> seen all the formulas that these famous and not so famous doctors

> wrote than hearing about their bloodlines.

>

> I also found it strange that he ends with the influential Dr. John

> Shen, who although having a familial relationship to this city, seemed

> to have strayed from the medical traditions. It seems like we have to

>

> doug

>

> , " Trevor Erikson "

> <trevor_erikson wrote:

> >

> > Jason,

> >

> > Thanks for your insights. I too am always searching for that good

> > blend of teacher and clinician. I always want to question the

> validity

> > of a " famous " doctors claim to to fame, whether it was from a purely

> > theoretical place or if it was matched in clinical practice.

> >

> > I was very intrigued by some of the accomplishments that Volker

> > attributed to Qin Bowei, particularly his diagnostic ability and the

> > book he wrote on this. It seems that his diagnostic approach was

> meant

> > to be placed into the mainstream standardized medical literature,

> but

> > was replaced instead by the less superior 8 differential diagnosis.

> >

> > I am very curious to study Qin Bowei's methods and case studies. I

> > noticed that Chip Chase recently translated a book of his. Any

> idea if

> > it is related to Qin's diagnostic skills?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Trevor

> >

> > PS This is another area where I feel more motivated to actually

> learn

> > the Chinese. Practitioners like yourself inspire me because of all

> > this richness you have access to!

> >

> >

> > , " "

> > <@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Trevor,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Volker's book is excellent, no doubt. However, I think one has to

> > look at

> > > the big picture when evaluating such a statement.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Qin Bo-Wei was one of the strongest and most famous teachers in

> the 20th

> > > century, writing many of the earlier textbooks (and loads of

> > articles) for

> > > the schools in the 20 century. His ability to clearly present

> > complex ideas

> > > was unparalleled. He was an amazing synthesizer of ideas and there

> > are some

> > > interesting stories about this in Volker's book.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > However, my teacher shadowed him for 15 years in the clinic. I

> have

> > had long

> > > discussion about Dr. Qin's clinical aspects with my teacher. It

> > should be

> > > known that Dr. Qin's clinical skills were also some of the best

> around.

> > > There are quite of few of his case studies circulating for this

> very

> > reason.

> > > I have hundreds and they are far from meek.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Very good... I'm happy to see that Volker will be doing the new books

from his extensive research.

 

I'm also glad to hear another version of Formulas and Strategies is on

its way. I've looked at the new Chen version of Formulas. It also

looks good, however at this point it doesn't have enough new

information to spend my money on it. I'd rather save the bucks for the

new Bensky et. al. Formulas book.

There was a time when I'd buy anything that came along. It is exciting

to actually have choices these days.

 

While we're on the subject of books I'd like to congratulate CHA

member, Al Stone, on the Eastland publication of a Diagnosis book

written together with Yi Qiao. (Yours truly has the blurb on the

back.) It's a great volume, reasonably priced and hopefully it will

take its place as a standard text for diagnosis. I believe its

available on Eastland's web site now.

 

 

As Al pointed out, these doctors from Beijing (Yi Qiao, Yang, Dr. Wen,

Ma, Hu and the others we work with here in LA) just really know their

stuff. Being able to get more translations and interpretations from

Qin Bo-Wei, the primary teacher of several generations of these

doctors will be a great asset to the English speaking student and

practitioner.

Doug

 

 

 

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<zrosenbe wrote:

>

> Doug,

> You'll be happy to know that the " Currents of Tradition " text is

> just the groundwork for texts on the prescriptions and medical

> treatment of such physicians as Fei Bo-xiong mentioned in the book.

> Also, I am sure that the new version of " Formulas and Strategies "

> released in January will have hints of this material as well.

>

>

>

>

> On Nov 20, 2008, at 12:06 PM, wrote:

>

> > I'd have to go back to the book to quote the text but I think we can

> > say he was " best known " as a teacher and administrator advocate. I was

> > kind of inspired to read that Qin first created the charts that we now

> > use so often to explain patterns and organ functions.

> >

> > Tell you the truth, I am a bit ambivalent about the Scheid book. I can

> > appreciate the scholarship and am glad for it but I would have rather

> > seen all the formulas that these famous and not so famous doctors

> > wrote than hearing about their bloodlines.

> >

> > I also found it strange that he ends with the influential Dr. John

> > Shen, who although having a familial relationship to this city, seemed

 

> >

> > doug

> >

>

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