Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Al (or others), I would like to hear a little bit about your book if you don't mind. For one, how does it differ from previous diagnosis books? BTW - From what I have seen, the new F & S book is quite impressive. It is well worth the wait. -Jason On Behalf Of Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:51 PM Re: QIn Bo-Wei and scheid Very good... I'm happy to see that Volker will be doing the new books from his extensive research. I'm also glad to hear another version of Formulas and Strategies is on its way. I've looked at the new Chen version of Formulas. It also looks good, however at this point it doesn't have enough new information to spend my money on it. I'd rather save the bucks for the new Bensky et. al. Formulas book. There was a time when I'd buy anything that came along. It is exciting to actually have choices these days. While we're on the subject of books I'd like to congratulate CHA member, Al Stone, on the Eastland publication of a Diagnosis book written together with Yi Qiao. (Yours truly has the blurb on the back.) It's a great volume, reasonably priced and hopefully it will take its place as a standard text for diagnosis. I believe its available on Eastland's web site now. As Al pointed out, these doctors from Beijing (Yi Qiao, Yang, Dr. Wen, Ma, Hu and the others we work with here in LA) just really know their stuff. Being able to get more translations and interpretations from Qin Bo-Wei, the primary teacher of several generations of these doctors will be a great asset to the English speaking student and practitioner. Doug <%40> , <zrosenbe wrote: > > Doug, > You'll be happy to know that the " Currents of Tradition " text is > just the groundwork for texts on the prescriptions and medical > treatment of such physicians as Fei Bo-xiong mentioned in the book. > Also, I am sure that the new version of " Formulas and Strategies " > released in January will have hints of this material as well. > > > > > On Nov 20, 2008, at 12:06 PM, wrote: > > > I'd have to go back to the book to quote the text but I think we can > > say he was " best known " as a teacher and administrator advocate. I was > > kind of inspired to read that Qin first created the charts that we now > > use so often to explain patterns and organ functions. > > > > Tell you the truth, I am a bit ambivalent about the Scheid book. I can > > appreciate the scholarship and am glad for it but I would have rather > > seen all the formulas that these famous and not so famous doctors > > wrote than hearing about their bloodlines. > > > > I also found it strange that he ends with the influential Dr. John > > Shen, who although having a familial relationship to this city, seemed > > > > doug > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.8/1801 - Release 11/20/2008 9:11 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:52 PM, < > wrote: > Al (or others), > > I would like to hear a little bit about your book if you don't mind. For > one, how does it differ from previous diagnosis books? > The key benefit of this particular book is that, while it covers much of the same ground as many of the better diagnosis books, it doesn't simply lay out facts. Rather, it organizes and explains mechanisms of diagnostic findings. There are also ample charts that provide one a basis for understanding the subtle differences between the many observations. Lot's of the differences between, let's say all the forceless pulses (soggy, deficient, faint, frail, scattered), are compared and contrasted in handy tables. I myself am something of a visual learner and Dr. Qiao, the author of this book, was one of my teachers. She often laid things out in chart and table form when teaching, which I always found really helpful. This is simply an entire book of these charts and tables. But most important, at least in terms of how this book is different from others is that it doesn't just lay out information, but explains the mechanisms behind those observations. The book also has a self-test at the end. Because our premise behind this and our first book on formulas (Snow Lotus Press 2000) was always a board review, we finish up the book with a 200 question mock exam. Some of these questions come from other books such as Maciocia's Foundations (1st ed.) I didn't particularly like this fact, because it can be a little frustrating to not be able to find the answer in the same book, but that's the way the editing process goes sometimes. There are some sample pages located at the Eastland Press site that one can take a look at here: http://eastlandpress.com/books/Chinese Traditional Medicine_diagnosis_study_guid\ e.php Or, just go to http://eastlandpress.com and click on " New Books " . Hope ya'll like it! -al. -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Looks great. I use the Herbs and Formulas Study Guides by Snow Lotus press as well. The charts are very helpful. Al, in the Formulas book, one category is missing... *Formulas that treat dryness[?]* Important formulas: Xing su san, Sang xin tang, Qing zao jiu fei tang *Sha shen mai men dong tang, Bai he gu jin tang,* Bu fei e jiao tang, *Mai men dong tang*, Zeng ye tang, Yu ye tang Just curious, if this will be in the next edition, Thanks, K. On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Al Stone <al wrote: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:52 PM, < > <%40Chinese Medicine>> > wrote: > > > Al (or others), > > > > I would like to hear a little bit about your book if you don't mind. For > > one, how does it differ from previous diagnosis books? > > > > The key benefit of this particular book is that, while it covers much of > the > same ground as many of the better diagnosis books, it doesn't simply lay > out > facts. Rather, it organizes and explains mechanisms of diagnostic findings. > There are also ample charts that provide one a basis for understanding the > subtle differences between the many observations. > > Lot's of the differences between, let's say all the forceless pulses > (soggy, > deficient, faint, frail, scattered), are compared and contrasted in handy > tables. > > I myself am something of a visual learner and Dr. Qiao, the author of this > book, was one of my teachers. She often laid things out in chart and table > form when teaching, which I always found really helpful. This is simply an > entire book of these charts and tables. But most important, at least in > terms of how this book is different from others is that it doesn't just lay > out information, but explains the mechanisms behind those observations. > > The book also has a self-test at the end. Because our premise behind this > and our first book on formulas (Snow Lotus Press 2000) was always a board > review, we finish up the book with a 200 question mock exam. Some of these > questions come from other books such as Maciocia's Foundations (1st ed.) I > didn't particularly like this fact, because it can be a little frustrating > to not be able to find the answer in the same book, but that's the way the > editing process goes sometimes. > > There are some sample pages located at the Eastland Press site that one can > take a look at here: > > http://eastlandpress.com/books/Chinese Traditional Medicine_diagnosis_study_guid\ e.php > > Or, just go to http://eastlandpress.com and click on " New Books " . > > Hope ya'll like it! > > -al. > > -- > , DAOM > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hi John, I agree that those dryness formulas need to be in our formula study guide. The next edition will likely come out in 2010, give or take. The original version of the book favored the 64 formulas that show up on the California licensing exam. Publisher Peter Holmes wanted us to expand it wide enough to work for those taking the NCCAOM exam as well, but apparently we never got around to expanding it into the dryness formulas. I'll set aside your request and encourage Dr. Qiao to address this the next time the book is back on our desks. Good idea. -al. On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:52 AM, <johnkokko wrote: > Looks great. I use the Herbs and Formulas Study Guides by Snow Lotus > press > as well. > The charts are very helpful. > > Al, in the Formulas book, one category is missing... > *Formulas that treat dryness[?]* > Important formulas: > Xing su san, Sang xin tang, Qing zao jiu fei tang > *Sha shen mai men dong tang, Bai he gu jin tang,* > Bu fei e jiao tang, *Mai men dong tang*, Zeng ye tang, Yu ye tang > > Just curious, if this will be in the next edition, > Thanks, > K. > -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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