Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Does anyone use a patch that they feel has been clearly successful in healing disc herniation (not mild)? I have tried a few and am not convinced they do that much. What are other experiences? -Jason <http://maps./py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap & addr=2600+30th+Street%2C+Suite+20 0 & csz=Boulder%2C+Co & country=us> 2600 30th Street, Suite 200 Boulder, Co 80301 <http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_simple_sig & lang=en> Want a signature like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Hey Jason, I'm wondering what you mean when you say " healing disc herniation " ? Do you mean getting the patient out of pain and functional again? To my knowledge, once a disc has herniated, that's how it stays without surgical intervention. Of course there are degrees of herniation ranging from a disc bulge to complete rupture of the nucleus pulposus and not every case is a surgical candidate - just depends on the symptoms, the level of dysfunction/pain and the presence/absence of red flag signs. Also, I'm assuming you're talking about the initial acute phase of a disc herniation (or even a later exacerbation of a preexisting condition) where the patient is currently symptomatic with some form of radiculopathy and debilitating pain/dysfunction. What I have found both clinically as well as personally (I have a disc herniation in the lumbar spine), is that the most important therapy at the time of initial injury is rest and time. There is no getting around the fact that someone will have to *STOP MOVING* in order to get the inflammatory response to calm down (the spine is destabilized and very vulnerable to micro-motion, irritation, inflammation - not to mention that the pain can be excruciating and progressive). I also find that patients do not generally want to hear this - they want the magic needle, herb, whatever so they can get on with their life as soon as possible (or in some cases, never slow down in the first place). And of course, there will always be those patients who are able to deal with a certain degree of disability in order to keep moving but I feel this just prolongs their injury and in some cases makes it worse - which is usually what got them there in the first place (unless you get launched off a horse like I did or had some other traumatic accident leading to disc injury). I seem to get a fair share of this type of patient - especially among the equestrienne world and resulting sports injuries. So, I've tried a number of approaches. But now, I will even do house calls for this kind of thing in the early phases because personally I feel it is detrimental to their recovery to make them get in a car, travel to my clinic, walk around, maneuver onto the treatment table, etc. I know some may disagree with me here...all I can say is if you've lived through it yourself, you may feel differently (or not). Anyway, I'm slightly off topic from your original question.... I have not found any patch to heal a disc herniation - if others have, I'd love to hear it, too. I do however use liniments and internal herbs, and even heat or ice as appropriate as supportive care in conjunction with active treatments (acupx, e-acupx, cupping, etc). I am also not adverse to the short-term use of pharmaceutical intervention for pain management if/when someone is in severe pain because the pain mechanism itself slows down the healing process (yes, I am aware of the catch-22 here). But, imo, none of these treatments should replace the need for (bed)-rest and time. As for how much time? My response is always " as long as it takes. " Everyone heals at their own individual rate. Our form of treatment can help shorten this window, but should not replace it altogether. Once the acute/symptomatic nature of the herniation is under control and the patient is no longer having radiculopathy, I will begin the patient on a spine stabilization/strengthening exercise regime - mostly culled from the pilates world with some qi gong. As one doctor so wisely said to me, I so tell my patients " these will become your exercises for life, make it part of your morning routine just like brushing your teeth - it's that important. " I sure know when I've slacked off on these stabilization movements... J ________ Joy Keller, LAc, Dipl.OM Board Certified in Acupuncture & Oriental Medicine Ramona Acupuncture & Integrative Medicine Clinic Phone: (760) 654-1040 Fax: (760) 654-4019 www.RamonaAcupuncture.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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