Bai Hua She She Cao and reduced sperm counts

[Guest guest]

Anyone know or have any literature explaining the reason for this

herbs ability to reduce sperm counts?

 

I cannot figure out if it is due to a cytotoxic or anti-androgen

effects or even some other route.

 

Thanks in advance,

Trevor

[Guest guest]

What was your source for the original issue of reduced sperm counts? I

have run across this but not the original source or study.

Doug

 

 

 

 

, " Trevor Erikson "

<trevor_erikson wrote:

>

> Anyone know or have any literature explaining the reason for this

> herbs ability to reduce sperm counts?

>

> I cannot figure out if it is due to a cytotoxic or anti-androgen

> effects or even some other route.

>

> Thanks in advance,

> Trevor

>

[Guest guest]

Chen and Chen mention it in their herbal text. They quote a chinese

study that I haven't been able to locate (in english anyways).

 

This is particularly interesting to me because Bai Hua She She Cao is

THE primary herb for the treatment of Acne, particularly hormonal acne

in a woman (working very well with PCOS), that I was taught and now

use. When I saw that it reduced sperm counts and lowered libido in

males, I have been assuming that its route of action is due to an

anti-androgenic effect,as this would explain it's wonderful effects

with Acne.

 

I was just putting it out there in hopes of finding some answers.

 

Cheers,

Trevor

 

 

, " "

wrote:

>

> What was your source for the original issue of reduced sperm counts? I

> have run across this but not the original source or study.

> Doug

>

>

>

>

> , " Trevor Erikson "

> <trevor_erikson@> wrote:

> >

> > Anyone know or have any literature explaining the reason for this

> > herbs ability to reduce sperm counts?

> >

> > I cannot figure out if it is due to a cytotoxic or anti-androgen

> > effects or even some other route.

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> > Trevor

> >

>

[Guest guest]

In the Beijing dermatological clinic they used bai hua she she cao for

autoimmune diseases. sometimes I wonder about those chen and chen

references.

 

 

Doug

 

 

, " Trevor Erikson "

<trevor_erikson wrote:

>

> Chen and Chen mention it in their herbal text. They quote a chinese

> study that I haven't been able to locate (in english anyways).

>

> This is particularly interesting to me because Bai Hua She She Cao is

> THE primary herb for the treatment of Acne, particularly hormonal acne

> in a woman (working very well with PCOS), that I was taught and now

> use. When I saw that it reduced sperm counts and lowered libido in

> males, I have been assuming that its route of action is due to an

> anti-androgenic effect,as this would explain it's wonderful effects

> with Acne.

>

> I was just putting it out there in hopes of finding some answers.

>

> Cheers,

> Trevor

>

>

> , " "

> <taiqi@> wrote:

> >

> > What was your source for the original issue of reduced sperm counts? I

> > have run across this but not the original source or study.

> > Doug

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Trevor Erikson "

> > <trevor_erikson@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Anyone know or have any literature explaining the reason for this

> > > herbs ability to reduce sperm counts?

> > >

> > > I cannot figure out if it is due to a cytotoxic or anti-androgen

> > > effects or even some other route.

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance,

> > > Trevor

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Just for the record the Chen and Chen reference is:

 

Zhong Yao Xue 1998 204:205

 

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Duncan E

 

 

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