Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Hello group, I had prescribed pang da hai to an elderly patient for his hoarse voice and chronic cough which is related to chronic sinus problems. I had him take 3 seeds, steeped in hot water and sip it throughout the day. He stated that it made him jittery and prevented him from sleeping. He tried it on three different days and had the same reaction. I was not aware of this potential side effect. I haven't experienced it, nor has anyone I know of, experienced it to my knowledge. The new Bensky text doesn't mention any toxicity or side-effects, and I didn't see any stimulants listed as active ingredients in the herb's chemistry. Any feed back would be appreciated. And any other recommendations for an elderly man with chronic sinus, chronic cough and hoarse voice. He is on a laundry list of meds (which possibly could be a cause for his condition). I researched his meds, and didn't see cough/sinus as a listed side effect. Thank you, -David Hahn, L.Ac. SourcePointAcupuncture.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Some high blood pressure medication have chronic cough (low grade- no sputum) as a side effect. Haven't really found any herbal that counters it. Doug , " David Hahn " <davidmhahn wrote: > > Hello group, > > I had prescribed pang da hai to an elderly patient for his hoarse > voice and chronic cough which is related to chronic sinus problems. I > had him take 3 seeds, steeped in hot water and sip it throughout the > day. He stated that it made him jittery and prevented him from > sleeping. He tried it on three different days and had the same > reaction. > I was not aware of this potential side effect. I haven't experienced > it, nor has anyone I know of, experienced it to my knowledge. > The new Bensky text doesn't mention any toxicity or side-effects, and > I didn't see any stimulants listed as active ingredients in the > herb's chemistry. > Any feed back would be appreciated. And any other recommendations for > an elderly man with chronic sinus, chronic cough and hoarse voice. He > is on a laundry list of meds (which possibly could be a cause for his > condition). I researched his meds, and didn't see cough/sinus as a > listed side effect. > Thank you, > -David Hahn, L.Ac. > SourcePointAcupuncture.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 It's ACE inhibitor type of blood pressure medications Sometimes ARB type of blood pressure medication can cause chronic cough. Some African Americans and Asians patients were easy impacted by this side effect. ACE and ARB are very commonly prescribed for protecting patients' kidney if patients with history of diabetes. You can ask patients to talk to their health care providers to change different type of BP med. This type of cough tend to be dry cough first thing in the morning. I haven't found any herb can counters it. It takes about 1 month to taper off the dry cough, after patients switch to different BP meds. Ta-Ya Lee, MSN, CRNP, MAc, LAc, MBA Johns Hopkins Community Physicians Wyman Park Internal Medicine Phone 410-338-3421 Fax 410-338-3413 Canton Crossing Integrative Medicine 410-522-9940 WARNING: E-mail sent over the Internet is not secure. Information sent by e-mail may not remain confidential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I know the patent, Xichuanling, can often resolve phlegm in the lung problems. However, it can make a person restless if they are very sensitive. This person may need more grandmother type of remedy, eg, teaspoons of honey w cinnamon. --- On Wed, 2/18/09, Ta-Ya Lee <tlee19 wrote: Ta-Ya Lee <tlee19 Re: Pang Da Hai Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 3:33 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Doug, You are probably referring to the yin xu type of cough that is a side effect of ACE inhibitors. I only tried it in one patient, but the Loquat Syrup from Planetary Formulas stopped the cough every time. - Bill , " " wrote: > > Some high blood pressure medication have chronic cough (low grade- no > sputum) as a side effect. Haven't really found any herbal that > counters it. > > Doug > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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