Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 About using the stroke protocol. When I was a student at Yo San my mother had two strokes, the second being severe. After a week in the hospital I had to make a decision about where to place her for rehab. bringing her home this time was not an option, feeding tube etc. I chose a SNF skilled nursing facility that allowed acupuncture visits, many do. At the hospital they told me " no " lots of red tape. At the SNF all I needed was the okay from her primary MD, an order in the chart saying " okay to be treated by acupuncturist " then I made the arrangements. The herbs were another matter. The primary was not too comfortable with a formula. Bonnie Roesger RN. LAc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 And this, of course, is one of the problems in treating stroke victims in this setting and with protocols. No Chinese medical differential diagnosis, no herbal medicine. When I read threads like this one, I really have to wonder if Chinese pattern differentiation and individualized treatment plans are going to survive the modern era. . . On Mar 24, 2009, at 12:07 PM, <QiArt wrote: > About using the stroke protocol. When I was a student at Yo San my > mother had two strokes, the second being severe. After a week in the > hospital I had to make a decision about where to place her for > rehab. bringing her home this time was not an option, feeding tube > etc. I chose a SNF skilled nursing facility that allowed acupuncture > visits, many do. At the hospital they told me " no " lots of red tape. > At the SNF all I needed was the okay from her primary MD, an order > in the chart saying " okay to be treated by acupuncturist " then I > made the arrangements. The herbs were another matter. The primary > was not too comfortable with a formula. > Bonnie Roesger RN. LAc. > Chair, Department of Herbal Medicine Pacific College of Oriental Medicine San Diego, Ca. 92122 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Hi Z'ev. That's the challenge, and I'm not totally optimistic. You are one of the big players. Does what you do have a lot of WM respect in your area? --- On Tue, 3/24/09, <zrosenbe wrote: <zrosenbe Re: Digest Number 4202 Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 8:46 PM And this, of course, is one of the problems in treating stroke victims in this setting and with protocols. No Chinese medical differential diagnosis, no herbal medicine. When I read threads like this one, I really have to wonder if Chinese pattern differentiation and individualized treatment plans are going to survive the modern era. . . On Mar 24, 2009, at 12:07 PM, <QiArt. com> wrote: > About using the stroke protocol. When I was a student at Yo San my > mother had two strokes, the second being severe. After a week in the > hospital I had to make a decision about where to place her for > rehab. bringing her home this time was not an option, feeding tube > etc. I chose a SNF skilled nursing facility that allowed acupuncture > visits, many do. At the hospital they told me " no " lots of red tape. > At the SNF all I needed was the okay from her primary MD, an order > in the chart saying " okay to be treated by acupuncturist " then I > made the arrangements. The herbs were another matter. The primary > was not too comfortable with a formula. > Bonnie Roesger RN. LAc. > Chair, Department of Herbal Medicine Pacific College of Oriental Medicine San Diego, Ca. 92122 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Good question. Respect from biomedicine? It depends on the doctor/institution. I think many Western physicians respect Chinese medicine in San Diego, but we also need to respect our own knowledge base and stop trying to conform to what we think Western physicians will expect. In addition, just as we need to make an effort to understand biomedicine as it applies to who and what we treat, Western physicians also need to make an effort to understand Chinese medicine in its original context. I've met several physicians in such medical centers as UCSD and Scripps who refer to and trust Chinese medical professionals. On Mar 24, 2009, at 8:08 PM, mystir wrote: > Hi Z'ev. That's the challenge, and I'm not totally optimistic. You > are one of the big players. Does what you do have a lot of WM > respect in your area? > > --- On Tue, 3/24/09, <zrosenbe wrote: > <zrosenbe > Re: Digest Number 4202 > > Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 8:46 PM > > And this, of course, is one of the problems in treating stroke victims > > in this setting and with protocols. No Chinese medical differential > > diagnosis, no herbal medicine. > > When I read threads like this one, I really have to wonder if Chinese > > pattern differentiation and individualized treatment plans are going > > to survive the modern era. . . > > > > Chair, Department of Herbal Medicine Pacific College of Oriental Medicine San Diego, Ca. 92122 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Bonnie, was the fact that you are also an RN make any difference? Doug , <QiArt wrote: > > About using the stroke protocol. When I was a student at Yo San my mother had two strokes, the second being severe. After a week in the hospital I had to make a decision about where to place her for rehab. bringing her home this time was not an option, feeding tube etc. I chose a SNF skilled nursing facility that allowed acupuncture visits, many do. At the hospital they told me " no " lots of red tape. At the SNF all I needed was the okay from her primary MD, an order in the chart saying " okay to be treated by acupuncturist " then I made the arrangements. The herbs were another matter. The primary was not too comfortable with a formula. > Bonnie Roesger RN. LAc. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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