Prescription for swine flu (North America Flu2009)

April 30, 2009

1 Only humans is affected, no report of swine death, should not be called swine

flu;

2 It resembles to H1N1 flu (mutated from it); but no matters if it is H5N1 bird

flu, or any other combinations, Chinese medicine has predominately advantages

treating virus;

3 This epedimic outbreak in Mexico City is very similar to the outbreak of SARS

in Hong Kong 2003. Two hundred plus were dead due to improper/delayed treatment.

Before they located the source of disease, infected patients were treated with

cortisone and antibiotic, some survivors still suffer the consequences of

prolonged dosage of cortisones. After segregations were practised, less and less

people were infected and the epedimic was not spreading and under control.

However, it is the Chinese medicine that helped to cure the survivors. For the

first time, Chinese medicine doctors (2 from Mainland China) were consulted and

made treatment in the public hospitals. No casualties were reported since the

introduction of Chinese medicine.

4 Epedimics can be properly controlled by Chinese medicine, especially the

school and formulas of warm disease.

5 In this case, the virus is not particular harsh so Tamiflu can control it. In

accordance to the symptoms reported from the media in Mexico and States, they

are headache, heat effusion, generalized pain,fatigue, etc. Although we do not

have the chance to meet any patients in face, hospitals in Guangdong Province,

China has offered free decoction to general public as preventive treatment. This

is exactly what Jin Gui Yao Lue preaches, treating disease before it arises.

6 I have been to Mexico and really like the people there, they are really

friendly and I know some amigos there. I really want to help and recommend the

following prescriptions to TCM practitioners in Mexico and States and other part

of the world (for your references).

Gan cao(licorice), jin yin hua(lonicerae), da qing ye (isatis leaf), ge gen

(pueraria), yi yi ren (coix), lian qiao(forsythia),ban lan gen(isatis root) all

30g; one can use a large pot to decoct for dozens of patients.

My best wishes to the people in Mexico and those are infected wherever you are.

Feel free to contact me if I can be more helpful.

I hope Chinese medicine profession can take this opportunity to contribute more

to the world of medical profession.

SUNG, Yuk-ming

PhD (Chengdu U TCM), BA (Houston), L Ac. (Hong Kong)

April 30, 2009

Very important points. Dr. Sung.

Rey Tiquia has translated several articles on pattern differentiation

and treatment of the SARS epidemic. Try googling them. Chinese

medicine has tremendous resources for such epidemics, but only if we

use the tools as they were designed, not as a 'one size fits all'

approach.

On Apr 30, 2009, at 9:34 AM, sxm2649 wrote:

>

> 1 Only humans is affected, no report of swine death, should not be

> called swine flu;

>

> 2 It resembles to H1N1 flu (mutated from it); but no matters if it

> is H5N1 bird flu, or any other combinations, Chinese medicine has

> predominately advantages treating virus;

>

> 3 This epedimic outbreak in Mexico City is very similar to the

> outbreak of SARS in Hong Kong 2003. Two hundred plus were dead due

> to improper/delayed treatment. Before they located the source of

> disease, infected patients were treated with cortisone and

> antibiotic, some survivors still suffer the consequences of

> prolonged dosage of cortisones. After segregations were practised,

> less and less people were infected and the epedimic was not

> spreading and under control. However, it is the Chinese medicine

> that helped to cure the survivors. For the first time, Chinese

> medicine doctors (2 from Mainland China) were consulted and made

> treatment in the public hospitals. No casualties were reported since

> the introduction of Chinese medicine.

>

> 4 Epedimics can be properly controlled by Chinese medicine,

> especially the school and formulas of warm disease.

>

> 5 In this case, the virus is not particular harsh so Tamiflu can

> control it. In accordance to the symptoms reported from the media in

> Mexico and States, they are headache, heat effusion, generalized

> pain,fatigue, etc. Although we do not have the chance to meet any

> patients in face, hospitals in Guangdong Province, China has offered

> free decoction to general public as preventive treatment. This is

> exactly what Jin Gui Yao Lue preaches, treating disease before it

> arises.

>

> 6 I have been to Mexico and really like the people there, they are

> really friendly and I know some amigos there. I really want to help

> and recommend the following prescriptions to TCM practitioners in

> Mexico and States and other part of the world (for your references).

>

> Gan cao(licorice), jin yin hua(lonicerae), da qing ye (isatis leaf),

> ge gen (pueraria), yi yi ren (coix), lian qiao(forsythia),ban lan

> gen(isatis root) all 30g; one can use a large pot to decoct for

> dozens of patients.

>

> My best wishes to the people in Mexico and those are infected

> wherever you are. Feel free to contact me if I can be more helpful.

> I hope Chinese medicine profession can take this opportunity to

> contribute more to the world of medical profession.

>

> SUNG, Yuk-ming

> PhD (Chengdu U TCM), BA (Houston), L Ac. (Hong Kong)

>

Chair, Department of Herbal Medicine

Pacific College of Oriental Medicine

San Diego, Ca. 92122

April 30, 2009

To Mr Rosenberg and all,

I cannot agree with you more about the importance of pattern identification,

which is emphasized throughout the book of Jin Gui Yao Lue. As a matter of fact,

the whole protocol of controlling epidemics rests upon these two principles:

treating disease before it arises (segregation) and pattern identifications.

As what I discussed is about the prevention of the spread of this H1N1 epidemics

prevailing in Mexico City and scarcely spread in States, the mentioned

ingredients should help to prevent the contraction of this flu by frontline

paramedic and medical professionals. For symptoms associated with other stages

require modifications by local TCM doctors. They may either address more upon

the damp evil or qi and yin deficiency aspects. As you fellow TCM doctors are in

proximity of Mexico, especially those in California next to the border are best

qualified to supply formulas according to the principle of pattern

identification.

As far as the articles you suggest, I took a glimpse at the link posted by

Andrea Beth, they are all the standard teachings of Warm Disease (as a subject

curriculum). All these formulas are standard heat-draining formulas such as

White-Tiger Decoction or damp-dispelling formulas. It is excellent if more TCM

schools can include them in the curriculum. With this knowledge in hands, I am

sure all TCM doctors in States or other South American neighbors are better

equipped in the combat with all kinds of epidemics.

Since we discuss warm disease, it rings the bell that some interesting findings

about pattern identification in epidemics in the history of China. In 1956-57,

epidemic Japanese encephalitis was spread in Chengdu, Sichuan Province and a

fraction of a million were dead. A famous local TCM doctor, PU, Fuzhou (he had

two case study books published and was transferred to Beijing as the doctor for

the highest officials afterwards) applied White Tiger Decoction and controlled

the epidemic. Next year in the north of China, a few hundred miles from Beijing,

there was an outbreak of epidemic. 90% patients treated with the same formula

died. Dr PU was consulted and after investigations, the etiology was closely

associated with damp evil, a base formula of san ren tang (Three Kernels

Decoction) was prescribed and worked.

My point is, the prevailing climate in Mexico should be considered when making

formulas for the epidemic. Some local exchange students returning from Mexico

City recently mentioned that it is really hot and air is polluted there. These

may account for the outbreak of epidemic there. The solstice of this year and

last year should be taken into considerations.

My 2 cents,

SUNG, Yuk-ming

Phd (Chengdu U TCM), BA(Houston), L Ac (Hong Kong)

April 30, 2009

Dr. Sung,

It is absolutely essential to consider the climate, as you point

out, in terms of the development of epidemic evils. In addition, the

season in which the epidemic appears. Seasonally, it appears we may

be dealing with a spring warmth epidemic with latent evil heat, but I

haven't yet seen a detailed description of the symptoms (and no one

has come forth with tongue and pulse images at this point).

On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:01 PM, sxm2649 wrote:

>

> To Mr Rosenberg and all,

>

> I cannot agree with you more about the importance of pattern

> identification, which is emphasized throughout the book of Jin Gui

> Yao Lue. As a matter of fact, the whole protocol of controlling

> epidemics rests upon these two principles: treating disease before

> it arises (segregation) and pattern identifications.

>

> As what I discussed is about the prevention of the spread of this

> H1N1 epidemics prevailing in Mexico City and scarcely spread in

> States, the mentioned ingredients should help to prevent the

> contraction of this flu by frontline paramedic and medical

> professionals. For symptoms associated with other stages require

> modifications by local TCM doctors. They may either address more

> upon the damp evil or qi and yin deficiency aspects. As you fellow

> TCM doctors are in proximity of Mexico, especially those in

> California next to the border are best qualified to supply formulas

> according to the principle of pattern identification.

>

> As far as the articles you suggest, I took a glimpse at the link

> posted by Andrea Beth, they are all the standard teachings of Warm

> Disease (as a subject curriculum). All these formulas are standard

> heat-draining formulas such as White-Tiger Decoction or damp-

> dispelling formulas. It is excellent if more TCM schools can include

> them in the curriculum. With this knowledge in hands, I am sure all

> TCM doctors in States or other South American neighbors are better

> equipped in the combat with all kinds of epidemics.

>

> Since we discuss warm disease, it rings the bell that some

> interesting findings about pattern identification in epidemics in

> the history of China. In 1956-57, epidemic Japanese encephalitis was

> spread in Chengdu, Sichuan Province and a fraction of a million were

> dead. A famous local TCM doctor, PU, Fuzhou (he had two case study

> books published and was transferred to Beijing as the doctor for the

> highest officials afterwards) applied White Tiger Decoction and

> controlled the epidemic. Next year in the north of China, a few

> hundred miles from Beijing, there was an outbreak of epidemic. 90%

> patients treated with the same formula died. Dr PU was consulted and

> after investigations, the etiology was closely associated with damp

> evil, a base formula of san ren tang (Three Kernels Decoction) was

> prescribed and worked.

>

> My point is, the prevailing climate in Mexico should be considered

> when making formulas for the epidemic. Some local exchange students

> returning from Mexico City recently mentioned that it is really hot

> and air is polluted there. These may account for the outbreak of

> epidemic there. The solstice of this year and last year should be

> taken into considerations.

>

> My 2 cents,

>

> SUNG, Yuk-ming

> Phd (Chengdu U TCM), BA(Houston), L Ac (Hong Kong)

>

Chair, Department of Herbal Medicine

Pacific College of Oriental Medicine

San Diego, Ca. 92122

May 1, 2009

I have looked into this 1st wwar pandemic, and I've seen the pros and cons, but

I am convinced it was a dirty overcrowded swine farm, hit by unseasonal cold

showers, and the pigs got sick, and a farmboy sent to europe was the vector. So,

yes, climacteric influences played a big part. Back then, there was little

access to herbs. Now we Know better. We could handle simple things like that, no

problem. Ebola yes, better than the virus hunters of the cdc.

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