Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 I typically purchase KPC powder extracts, however recently, out of convenience, have purchased a few Min Tong and Evergreen powder extracts because they are now being distributed by Emerson Ecologics and I can avoid shipping charges by combing orthomolecular nutrients with herb orders...I digress. Question: I just opened a new bottle of Du Zhong by Min Tong and it's a very pale beige color. I am used to KPC's very dark (almost black) Du Zhong....why would there be such a significant color change in the powder extract from two different companies? Certainly, I've noticed minor variations in color from batch to batch, but this seems more than that. Is that typical? Does this represent anything significant from a clinical perspective? J ________ Joy Keller, LAc, Dipl.OM Board Certified in Acupuncture & Oriental Medicine Ramona Acupuncture & Integrative Medicine Clinic Phone: (760) 654-1040 Fax: (760) 654-4019 www.RamonaAcupuncture.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 , Joy Keller <JKellerLAc wrote: > Question: I just opened a new bottle of Du Zhong by Min Tong and it's a very > pale beige color. I am used to KPC's very dark (almost black) Du > Zhong....why would there be such a significant color change in the powder > extract from two different companies? Certainly, I've noticed minor > variations in color from batch to batch, but this seems more than that. Is > that typical? Does this represent anything significant from a clinical > perspective? I don't know the exact nature of processing (pao zhi) that is used by those two companies for du zhong, but my guess is that the color difference is due to the use of different pao zhi methods. In Taiwan, du zhong is rarely used in its crude state, it is generally baked or stir-fried until it is somewhat black and its latex is broken down. Salt-water may be used (yan zhi) in its processing as well. This dark-processed form is preferred on the Taiwan market, so perhaps the difference you are seeing reflects the use of the cooked vs. crude bark when making the extract. Many Taiwanese doctors have a strong preference for the dark processing method, but its use is somewhat regional. There is no complete consensus on the preferred processing technique for du zhong across China. Eric Brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Send it back. The problem with extracts is that you don't know what you are getting. I just got a bottle from Kamwo Herbs marked " Chuan Xin Lian Alianthi aortex " (sic) when I ordered andrographis. (And Chun pi isn't a substitute.) I have seen from various manufacturers highly aromatic herbs with no aroma and totally different colors. And apparently just having a bottle with a printed label doesn't mean it wasn't just poured out of a jar with a label typed out, which is a recipe for mistakes. Karen S. Vaughan, L.Ac., MSTOM Registered Herbalist (AHG) Creationsgarden1 253 Garfield Place Brooklyn, NY 11215 (718) 622-6755 See my Acupuncture and Herbalism website at:_http://www.byregion.net/profiles/ksvaughan2.html_ (http://ksvaughan2.byregion.net/) Twitter: Herblady22 Facebook: Karen Vaughan and Facebook group: Swine Flu and Herbalism Stop Mountaintop Removal Mining: _www.Ilovemountains.org_ (http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/organizations/appvoices/campaign.jsp?campa\ ign_KEY=14105 & t=iLoveMountainsMAIN.dwt) **************The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222376998x1201454298/aol?redir=http://\ www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072 & hmpgID=62 & bcd=M ay5309AvgfooterNO62) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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