metal tubes and the coolness factor

[Guest guest]

I sense, and I may be wrong, from the initial query about metal

> guide tubes, a little feel for the elegant way acupuncture was

> practiced in the past, and it was a very beautiful, minimalist, and

> holistic time of the craft. Metal tubes, small wrapped pocket

> travelling kit, the finest metals, the respect for each piece as the

> needle is the 'coup de grace', following the evaluation.

 

that is exactly my intention.

 

coolness and qi conduction are possibilities that inspire me. metal tubes are

the essential tools of japanese sensei’s shudo denmei and masakazu ikeda. also

I am horrified by the amount of paper and plastic waste and debris I generate

with every treatment. free hand is not my thing for the painless technique most

patients require. the bulk needles are fine but the tubes that come with them

are usually the cheapest, sharp and uncomfortable. if seirin made a bulk 5 or 10

I would be very excited. I find the unico single needle guide tube the most

comfortable plastic tube by far, surpassing seirin.

my current plan is to use the metal guide tubes in combination with bulk needles

to maximize my proficiency, enhance patient comfort and reduce litter and waste.

I have purchased an autoclave after a few months " borrowing " one from my local

dentist (a benefit of trading free acupuncture). because plastic tube are the

standard in the usa and china there are few distributors here so I have to

extend my searching. I am developing my skills and this method seems to improve

my results. old school is often coolest precisely because it requires special

preparation and maintenance, like oil paint, lithography, cast iron skillets,

mortise and tenon joinery, and black and white celluloid.

 

thank you helping me.

 

mark

nashville

[Guest guest]

Is all this leading to trip to Home Depot? Tubing, a vise, a clipper, sandpaper,

a workbench in the garage, a magnifying glass...

Doug

 

........I am developing my skills and this method seems to improve my results.

old school is often coolest precisely because it requires special preparation

and maintenance, like oil paint, lithography, cast iron skillets, mortise and

tenon joinery, and black and white celluloid.

>

> thank you helping me.

>

> mark

> nashville

>

[Guest guest]

I use both metal and glass insertion tubes that I've hoarded over the

years. Like a lot of other great products that Seirin once produced,

such as small shoni-shin needles and moxa ash scoops, the glass

insertion tubes have been discontinued. I prefer the 'feel' of metal

or glass to plastic myself, just a personal preference. But I

appreciate your input about Ikeda and Denmai.

 

 

On May 27, 2009, at 5:49 AM, yangchi125 wrote:

 

>

>

> I sense, and I may be wrong, from the initial query about metal

> > guide tubes, a little feel for the elegant way acupuncture was

> > practiced in the past, and it was a very beautiful, minimalist, and

> > holistic time of the craft. Metal tubes, small wrapped pocket

> > travelling kit, the finest metals, the respect for each piece as the

> > needle is the 'coup de grace', following the evaluation.

>

> that is exactly my intention.

>

> coolness and qi conduction are possibilities that inspire me. metal

> tubes are the essential tools of japanese sensei’s shudo denmei

> and masakazu ikeda. also I am horrified by the amount of paper and

> plastic waste and debris I generate with every treatment. free hand

> is not my thing for the painless technique most patients require.

> the bulk needles are fine but the tubes that come with them are

> usually the cheapest, sharp and uncomfortable. if seirin made a bulk

> 5 or 10 I would be very excited. I find the unico single needle

> guide tube the most comfortable plastic tube by far, surpassing

> seirin.

> my current plan is to use the metal guide tubes in combination with

> bulk needles to maximize my proficiency, enhance patient comfort and

> reduce litter and waste. I have purchased an autoclave after a few

> months " borrowing " one from my local dentist (a benefit of trading

> free acupuncture). because plastic tube are the standard in the usa

> and china there are few distributors here so I have to extend my

> searching. I am developing my skills and this method seems to

> improve my results. old school is often coolest precisely because it

> requires special preparation and maintenance, like oil paint,

> lithography, cast iron skillets, mortise and tenon joinery, and

> black and white celluloid.

>

> thank you helping me.

>

> mark

> nashville

>

>

 

 

Chair, Department of Herbal Medicine

Pacific College of Oriental Medicine

San Diego, Ca. 92122

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Mark wrote:

coolness and qi conduction are possibilities that

inspire me. metal

tubes are the essential tools of japanese

senseiâ€s shudo denmei

and masakazu ikeda.

 

Actually Shudo does not use metal tubes. He has

all kinds of them & other acupuncture

paraphernalia in his office, but he pretty much

sticks with Serin 02 x 30mm (.12mm diameter) and

usually uses 1 needle per patient. Ikeda often

uses a heavy gold tube (warm, not cool), which he

fishes out of his pocket as needed. In each case

the typical insertion is ½ to 2 mm.

 

Tom Hurrle, L.Ac.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

So Mark,

Does Shudo use 1 needle with 1 insertion point only? Or several

insertions with the same needle? That latter would actually be a

Japanese style I've seen before -- insertion, then almost immediate

withdrawal, insertion at another point.

 

ann

 

On May 27, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Tom Hurrle wrote:

 

>

>

> Mark wrote:

> coolness and qi conduction are possibilities that

> inspire me. metal

> tubes are the essential tools of japanese

> senseiâ€s shudo denmei

> and masakazu ikeda.

>

> Actually Shudo does not use metal tubes. He has

> all kinds of them & other acupuncture

> paraphernalia in his office, but he pretty much

> sticks with Serin 02 x 30mm (.12mm diameter) and

> usually uses 1 needle per patient. Ikeda often

> uses a heavy gold tube (warm, not cool), which he

> fishes out of his pocket as needed. In each case

> the typical insertion is ½ to 2 mm.

>

> Tom Hurrle, L.Ac.

>

>