Guest guest Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Group, After spending a bit of time researching fu zi since our last CHA exchange on the topic, there seems to be at least one trusted source now for authentic fuzi here in the States (Spring Wind). Just to be clear, I have no ties to the company. However, I know the company that they obtain their fuzi from (in China) and it has some of the highest quality herbs you can get, hence they really only sell to Japan. This fuzi is actually from jiangyou, and does not use Mg chloride, bleach, or toxic stripping agents, as most others fuzi producers do. Consequently, it is dark, almost black in color. If your fuzi is that pale translucent /orange-brown color, you should talk to your distributor. Also check out this translated article on the topic: http://oldschoolacupuncture.com/Avoid%20the%20trap%20associated%20with%20the %20preparation%20of%20fuzi%20(Abstract).pdf - Acupuncture www.ChineseMedicinedoc.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 6:30 AM, < > wrote: > > > Also check out this translated article on the topic (Fu Zi): > > > http://oldschoolacupuncture.com/Avoid%20the%20trap%20associated%20with%20the > %20preparation%20of%20fuzi%20(Abstract).pdf > Here's an easier URL to visit: *http://tinyurl.com/nw649r *This is a PDF file which some browsers will need to download before displaying, so if your computer asks for permission to download a document, go ahead and do it. -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Jason, Have you seen Heiner Fruehauf's article on fu zi at his website? He has a high quality fu zi available as well. http://classicalpearls.org/ On Jul 26, 2009, at 6:30 AM, wrote: > Group, > > After spending a bit of time researching fu zi since our last CHA > exchange > on the topic, there seems to be at least one trusted source now for > authentic fuzi here in the States (Spring Wind). Just to be clear, I > have no > ties to the company. However, I know the company that they obtain > their > fuzi from (in China) and it has some of the highest quality herbs > you can > get, hence they really only sell to Japan. This fuzi is actually from > jiangyou, and does not use Mg chloride, bleach, or toxic stripping > agents, > as most others fuzi producers do. Consequently, it is dark, almost > black in > color. If your fuzi is that pale translucent /orange-brown color, > you should > talk to your distributor. > > Also check out this translated article on the topic: > > http://oldschoolacupuncture.com/Avoid%20the%20trap%20associated%20with%20the > %20preparation%20of%20fuzi%20(Abstract).pdf > > - > > Acupuncture > > > > www.ChineseMedicinedoc.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Z'ev, Thanks, and yes I mentioned this article in the last fuzi discussion, however it seems like he is only selling granulars. -Jason On Behalf Of Sunday, July 26, 2009 9:20 AM Re: fuzi II Jason, Have you seen Heiner Fruehauf's article on fu zi at his website? He has a high quality fu zi available as well. http://classicalpearls.org/ On Jul 26, 2009, at 6:30 AM, wrote: > Group, > > After spending a bit of time researching fu zi since our last CHA > exchange > on the topic, there seems to be at least one trusted source now for > authentic fuzi here in the States (Spring Wind). Just to be clear, I > have no > ties to the company. However, I know the company that they obtain > their > fuzi from (in China) and it has some of the highest quality herbs > you can > get, hence they really only sell to Japan. This fuzi is actually from > jiangyou, and does not use Mg chloride, bleach, or toxic stripping > agents, > as most others fuzi producers do. Consequently, it is dark, almost > black in > color. If your fuzi is that pale translucent /orange-brown color, > you should > talk to your distributor. > > Also check out this translated article on the topic: > > http://oldschoolacupuncture.com/Avoid%20the%20trap%20associated%20with%20the > %20preparation%20of%20fuzi%20(Abstract).pdf > > - > > Acupuncture > > > > www.ChineseMedicinedoc.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 That is true. I order my raw herb formulas through Spring Wind, and trust them implicitly. I have been giving Heiner's fu zi powder as part of zhen wu tang to a patient with kidney failure who I've treated for many years, and the improvement in her condition was immediate. . On Jul 26, 2009, at 8:29 AM, wrote: > Z'ev, > > Thanks, and yes I mentioned this article in the last fuzi discussion, > however it seems like he is only selling granulars. > > -Jason > > > On Behalf Of Z'ev > Rosenberg > Sunday, July 26, 2009 9:20 AM > > Re: fuzi II > > Jason, > Have you seen Heiner Fruehauf's article on fu zi at his website? > He has a high quality fu zi available as well. > > http://classicalpearls.org/ > > > On Jul 26, 2009, at 6:30 AM, wrote: > > > Group, > > > > After spending a bit of time researching fu zi since our last CHA > > exchange > > on the topic, there seems to be at least one trusted source now for > > authentic fuzi here in the States (Spring Wind). Just to be clear, I > > have no > > ties to the company. However, I know the company that they obtain > > their > > fuzi from (in China) and it has some of the highest quality herbs > > you can > > get, hence they really only sell to Japan. This fuzi is actually > from > > jiangyou, and does not use Mg chloride, bleach, or toxic stripping > > agents, > > as most others fuzi producers do. Consequently, it is dark, almost > > black in > > color. If your fuzi is that pale translucent /orange-brown color, > > you should > > talk to your distributor. > > > > Also check out this translated article on the topic: > > > > > http://oldschoolacupuncture.com/Avoid%20the%20trap%20associated%20with%20the > > %20preparation%20of%20fuzi%20(Abstract).pdf > > > > - > > > > Acupuncture > > > > > > > > www.ChineseMedicinedoc.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 , <zrosenbe wrote: > > That is true. I order my raw herb formulas through Spring Wind, and > trust them implicitly. In general, I think Andy Ellis at Spring Wind is probably one of the best resources in the field of raw herbal pharmacy. He has been consistently ahead of the curve on many species identification issues, and he has studied Chinese texts and markets to learn about pharmacy for decades. So I'd basically trust whatever he is using. I will also ask some of the pharmacy experts I know in Asia to see if I can add something more to this fu zi discussion. As an aside, Spring Wind has also started carrying some wine-processed shan zhu yu. Apparently the wine-processing enhances the solubility of its active constituents dramatically. Similarly, the company that I use for granules uses wine-processing (jiu zhi) for its shan zhu yu for the same reason. Spring Wind also has a very unique yu zhu product, I can't remember if it is processed with wine or what, but it is black in color and tasty even right out of the bag. Worth trying, and apparently it is also much richer in active constituents than the standard product. Eric Brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Z'ev, Do you know what the extraction ratio for his fu zi powder is? Just curious, what kind of dose have you been using per day? -Jason On Behalf Of Sunday, July 26, 2009 10:40 AM Re: fuzi II That is true. I order my raw herb formulas through Spring Wind, and trust them implicitly. I have been giving Heiner's fu zi powder as part of zhen wu tang to a patient with kidney failure who I've treated for many years, and the improvement in her condition was immediate. . On Jul 26, 2009, at 8:29 AM, wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 He has two types, one an 8 to 1 powder, and another 5 too 1 granules. I've been giving an extra few grams daily to a few patients, one taking zhen wu tang combined with xiao xian xiong tang and the other gui zhi shao yao zhi mu tang. There has been a noticeable improvement in my kidney failure patient, who was having a accumulation of fluid in the lungs and around the heart. On Aug 2, 2009, at 9:44 AM, wrote: > Z'ev, > > Do you know what the extraction ratio for his fu zi powder is? Just > curious, > what kind of dose have you been using per day? > > -Jason > > > On Behalf Of Z'ev > Rosenberg > Sunday, July 26, 2009 10:40 AM > > Re: fuzi II > > That is true. I order my raw herb formulas through Spring Wind, and > trust them implicitly. > > I have been giving Heiner's fu zi powder as part of zhen wu tang to a > patient with kidney failure who I've treated for many years, and the > improvement in her condition was immediate. . > > > On Jul 26, 2009, at 8:29 AM, wrote: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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