Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Hi all, I have a question: I was reading NOtes from South Mountain on huang qi wu wu tang. One of the modifications says this: for paralysis on the left side of the body, add dang gui. for the right side add extra huang qi. I have some ideas about what this might be referring to, but i wonder if anyone is familiar with this and can comment on it. Cara O. Frank, R. OM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Is this too simple to say that the left rules the liver (blood) and the lung (qi) the right? Doug , cara <herbbabe wrote: > > Hi all, > I have a question: I was reading NOtes from South Mountain on huang > qi wu wu tang. One of the modifications says this: for paralysis on > the left side of the body, add dang gui. for the right side add extra > huang qi. > > I have some ideas about what this might be referring to, but i > wonder if anyone is familiar with this and can comment on it. > > Cara O. Frank, R. OM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Cara and Doug Yes, this corresponds to the traditional notion of blood dominance on the left and qi dominance on the right. However, I have never seen, heard or read of anybody following this advice anymore in Taiwan or China. I would be interested if any members in this group has. Regards Daniel Altschuler, LAc, PhD - Wednesday, August 05, 2009 5:33 PM Re: huang qi wu wu tang Is this too simple to say that the left rules the liver (blood) and the lung (qi) the right? Doug , cara <herbbabe wrote: > > Hi all, > I have a question: I was reading NOtes from South Mountain on huang > qi wu wu tang. One of the modifications says this: for paralysis on > the left side of the body, add dang gui. for the right side add extra > huang qi. > > I have some ideas about what this might be referring to, but i > wonder if anyone is familiar with this and can comment on it. > > Cara O. Frank, R. OM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Our friend, Tiande Yang, definetely follows this idea here in LA. Whether he ever applied that to a stroke/paralysis case I don't know. Doug , " daltsch " <daltsch wrote: > > Cara and Doug > > Yes, this corresponds to the traditional notion of blood dominance on the left and qi dominance on the right. However, I have never seen, heard or read of anybody following this advice anymore in Taiwan or China. I would be interested if any members in this group has. > > Regards > Daniel Altschuler, LAc, PhD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 that's what i ws thinking. but i had seen an herbal reference to it. and also, the qi ascends on the left and then descends on on the right. I often think about that in acupuncture treatment strategies, but had not considered you could address it with herbs. nice! wish i knew the source text.......was Cara O. Frank, R. OM Six Fishes China Herb Company Chinese Herb Department Tai Sophia Institute www.carafrank.com 215-772-0770 On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:33 PM, wrote: > Is this too simple to say that the left rules the liver (blood) and > the lung (qi) the right? > Doug > > , cara <herbbabe wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > I have a question: I was reading NOtes from South Mountain on huang > > qi wu wu tang. One of the modifications says this: for paralysis on > > the left side of the body, add dang gui. for the right side add > extra > > huang qi. > > > > I have some ideas about what this might be referring to, but i > > wonder if anyone is familiar with this and can comment on it. > > > > Cara O. Frank, R. OM > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Left = liver/heart Xue Right = spleen/lung Qi, but, can you explain more about how Huang qi and Dang gui work with the ascension on the left and descending on the right? Other than the emperor facing the sun to the south (yang) with his back facing north (yin) and the sun rising from the east (left) and setting in the west (right), why is the left side yang and the right side yin? I'm wondering how to use these clinically? Thanks, K On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:49 AM, cara <herbbabe wrote: > that's what i ws thinking. but i had seen an herbal reference to it. > and also, the qi ascends on the left and then descends on on the > right. I often think about that in acupuncture treatment strategies, > but had not considered you could address it with herbs. nice! wish i > knew the source text.......was > Cara O. Frank, R. OM > Six Fishes > China Herb Company > Director Chinese Herb Department > Tai Sophia Institute > www.carafrank.com > 215-772-0770 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Cara, Doug, Daniel, I spent a couple months sitting in with professor Fan Zheng Lun in Beijing who would apply the left-blood, right-qi theory when treating things like headaches or pain in general, but otherwise have never really seen it applied anywhere else. Eran --- On Wed, 8/5/09, daltsch <daltsch wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 I was talking with a patient/friend/physiatrist about his left sided symptoms. He immediately made the association of the emotional side of the brain - crosses over from the right side - emotions -> blood -> emotions stored in the mai -> liver.... Not exactly all CM but it worked for him (and me). Doug , <johnkokko wrote: > > Left = liver/heart Xue > Right = spleen/lung Qi, > > but, can you explain more about how Huang qi and Dang gui > work with the ascension on the left and descending on the right? > Other than the emperor facing the sun to the south (yang) > with his back facing north (yin) > and the sun rising from the east (left) > and setting in the west (right), why is the left side yang > and the right side yin? > > I'm wondering how to use these clinically? > > Thanks, > K > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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