Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Hi All, I was just looking through my notes from a childbirth acupuncture class I took last year with Jean Levesque and saw that one of his recommendations for encouraging labor to start is " carthame oil. " He said it was a stronger way to move things along than raspberry tea and gentler than using a purgative like castor oil. So a quick Google search for carthame oil revealed only hair care products and oil used for paint, nothing food grade. As carthame is hong hua/safflower, has anyone on the list ever used safflower oil for this purpose? I can certainly go the herbal formula route--and I'm already doing acupuncture with the patient who prompted this investigation--but I'm always drawn to the simple home remedies, where appropriate. Thanks, Sarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Are there specific points on which you would apply it? - " Sarah Rivkin " <saydit Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:55 AM carthame oil to encourage labor? > Hi All, > > I was just looking through my notes from a childbirth acupuncture class I > took last year with Jean Levesque and saw that one of his recommendations > for encouraging labor to start is " carthame oil. " He said it was a > stronger way to move things along than raspberry tea and gentler than > using a purgative like castor oil. > > So a quick Google search for carthame oil revealed only hair care products > and oil used for paint, nothing food grade. As carthame is hong > hua/safflower, has anyone on the list ever used safflower oil for this > purpose? I can certainly go the herbal formula route--and I'm already > doing acupuncture with the patient who prompted this investigation--but > I'm always drawn to the simple home remedies, where appropriate. > > Thanks, > > Sarah > > > > > > --- > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including a > practitioner's directory and a moderated discussion forum. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 I guess you could use use it topically, if it were the essential oil,but he said to ou take it internally, so I think it's probably safflower oil? If no one on the list is familiar with this I'll try to ask Jean directly and report back on whether what he was recommending was the same as the safflower oil you cook with. --Sarah , " Mercurius Trismegistus " <magisterium_magnum wrote: > > Are there specific points on which you would apply it? > > > > > - > " Sarah Rivkin " <saydit > > Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:55 AM > carthame oil to encourage labor? > > > > Hi All, > > > > I was just looking through my notes from a childbirth acupuncture class I > > took last year with Jean Levesque and saw that one of his recommendations > > for encouraging labor to start is " carthame oil. " He said it was a > > stronger way to move things along than raspberry tea and gentler than > > using a purgative like castor oil. > > > > So a quick Google search for carthame oil revealed only hair care products > > and oil used for paint, nothing food grade. As carthame is hong > > hua/safflower, has anyone on the list ever used safflower oil for this > > purpose? I can certainly go the herbal formula route--and I'm already > > doing acupuncture with the patient who prompted this investigation--but > > I'm always drawn to the simple home remedies, where appropriate. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sarah > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including a > > practitioner's directory and a moderated discussion forum. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 , " Sarah Rivkin " <saydit wrote: > > I guess you could use use it topically, if it were the essential oil,but he said to ou take it internally, so I think it's probably safflower oil? If no one on the list is familiar with this I'll try to ask Jean directly and report back on whether what he was recommending was the same as the safflower oil you cook with. Perhaps Hong Hua You- Red Flower Oil? It is a liniment made from safflower, definitely wouldn't take it internally but it is a good liniment, similar to Po Sum On, etc. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 I am not sure about Carthame oil, but my wife (who is a midwife) uses a blend of lemon verbena oil and castor oil (and others), internally administered, to hep induce labour. She claims it works very well, within 14 hours or so. I guess the lemon verbena is commonly used in Germany to help bring on labour. She says that the castor oil by itself is too purgative and uncomfortable. Trevor , " Eric Brand " <smilinglotus wrote: > > , " Sarah Rivkin " <saydit@> wrote: > > > > I guess you could use use it topically, if it were the essential oil,but he said to ou take it internally, so I think it's probably safflower oil? If no one on the list is familiar with this I'll try to ask Jean directly and report back on whether what he was recommending was the same as the safflower oil you cook with. > > Perhaps Hong Hua You- Red Flower Oil? It is a liniment made from safflower, definitely wouldn't take it internally but it is a good liniment, similar to Po Sum On, etc. > > Eric > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Jean had said to take two tablespoons before each meal, so clearly that's notthe kind of dose you'd ingest for an essential oil. Carthame seems to be the French word for safflower, so I'm increasingly convinced that's what he was referring to. And, Trevor I wonder if the lemon verbena also makes the castor oil more palatable--it's pretty nasty stuff. I personally always discourage my patients from using it, as I've seen it exhaust the qi. That said, it probably saved me during my son's birth when my labor stalled. I'll pose my question to the source and report back. Thanks for your input, Sarah In , " Trevor Erikson " <trevor_erikson wrote: > > I am not sure about Carthame oil, but my wife (who is a midwife) uses a blend of lemon verbena oil and castor oil (and others), internally administered, to hep induce labour. She claims it works very well, within 14 hours or so. > > I guess the lemon verbena is commonly used in Germany to help bring on labour. > > She says that the castor oil by itself is too purgative and uncomfortable. > > Trevor > > , " Eric Brand " <smilinglotus@> wrote: > > > > , " Sarah Rivkin " <saydit@> wrote: > > > > > > I guess you could use use it topically, if it were the essential oil,but he said to ou take it internally, so I think it's probably safflower oil? If no one on the list is familiar with this I'll try to ask Jean directly and report back on whether what he was recommending was the same as the safflower oil you cook with. > > > > Perhaps Hong Hua You- Red Flower Oil? It is a liniment made from safflower, definitely wouldn't take it internally but it is a good liniment, similar to Po Sum On, etc. > > > > Eric > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Hello group In Europe midwives recommend drinking a certain amount of rhizinus oil (this drains downward)to encourage labour, if all else fails (like a warm bath, going on a long walk etc). Maybe that was what was meant. greetings Nina Zhao-Seiler Praxis für Traditionelle Chinesische Medizin Wilfriedstrasse 8 CH-8032 Zürich Tel: +41 44 251 1331 Fax: +41 43 243 6990 ninaseiler www.tongentangpraxis.org www.tcmherbs.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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