Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Juliette, I have seen topical coconut oil eliminate chronic skin irritations/itching, facilitate the healing of burns and bug bites, and even improve the appearance of old scars. I have not recommended it for eczema per se, but that would be my first suggestion. No special preparation is needed - in my experience, coconut oil sold at the grocery store for cooking seems to be good enough. It is solid at room temp but melts quickly on skin contact. Wendy Lehnert Lic.Ac. --- On Thu, 5/6/10, Aiyana Acupuncture <amazinghealing wrote: Aiyana Acupuncture <amazinghealing Topical Tumeric & Olive Oil and Internal Quercitin/Herbs for Eczema? " Chinese Herbal Medicine " Thursday, May 6, 2010, 10:56 AM  Hello, Does anyone have experience using a compound of turmeric and olive oil, or jojoba, or grapeseed or coconut oils- used topically to treat itchy, red pediatric eczema? If so, how long did it take to have an effect? Does it help with acute flare-ups or more in the long term? The child, who is my son, is 2 years old, was born with eczema and food allergies to cow's milk, eggs, all nuts, sesame and other seeds. I dx'd him with the milk allergy whilst breast feeding because of the presence of eczema and severe cradle cap, so I removed cow's milk dairy from my diet. His eczema cleared up with in weeks and has not been a huge problem ever since (we use oils on skin daily and avoid allergic foods). When he was 6 months old I have him tested for food allergies befoe I started solids. He was breastfed for 15 months. I do not feed him any allergic foods but 2 weeks ago he came into skin contact with a large amount of whey protein powder, may have breathed some in, and immediately broke out into hives, we administered Benedryl internally, but ever since this incident he has had eczema. When he scratches his back and behind, it raises into welted hives and becomes extremely red and irritated. The skin does not ooze. Nothing but Bendryl cream works to sooth it when it breaks out this badly (have tried fresh Aloe, Calendula cream and gel, Aveeno, oatmeal baths, the works- in fact it seems to get more irritated with these things) . I have heard of using sea salt baths but, if it stings he will refuse/become averse from baths which is not good for a 2 year old! LOL When he is older we can try this... To keep in under control (before this incident and still now), we bath him in oatmeal daily and have tried Aveeno & Mustela lotions, and use topical oils -currently using jojoba (can you say expensive!!) , used to use coconut but didn't seem to be moisturising enough or may have actually irritated him (?) and I am thinking of trying grapeseed oil. I also give him Cod Liver Oil and Quercitin internally (I think I should increase the dosage of the Quercitin... Any ideas on that??). We also give him this formula from ChildLife. We try to give it to him 1/2 teaspoon 2x daily but often he refuses it ( I think he doesn't like the grape flavor. I can give the child bitter Chinese herbal tinctures and he asks for more, but this no-no LOL) Aller-Care 4 oz Formally known as Aller-G-Ease Serving size: One teaspoon (5 ml) Servings per container: 24 Ingredients per serving: Amla (Emblica Officinalis) 50 mg Bromelain 50 mg MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane) 25 mg Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) 50 mg Gingko Biloba 12 mg Elderberry concentrate 250 mg Zinc Gluconate 1 mg Ingredients: Purified water, glycerine, citric acid, potassium sorbate, and grapefruit seed extract. Interested in comments, suggestions (internal Chinese herbs...Z'ev which Gentle Warrior?), and if you can point me to any research on natural remedies. Myself, my husband and my son are extemely grateful to you. Be Well, Juliette Aiyana, L.Ac., Herbalist, Author Aiyana Acupuncture & Chinese Herbs 41 Union Square W. Suite 519 NY, NY 10003 212-894-0767 www.amazinghealing. com www.optionsforweigh tloss.com The Book " & Healthy Weight Management An Evidence-based Integrated Approach " Email Confidentiality Statement Confidential Communication: This email message and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. This email and any attachments may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution, or copying is expressly prohibited. If you received this email message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email message or by telephone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Hi Juliette, I have no direct experience with turmeric & olive oil, per se. But a good friend of mine has a biracial daughter, now 16, who had eczema as a very young child. This led my friend thru a search for natural treatment and she ultimately developed a protocol that has worked wonderfully well. As a result of her experience, she formulated a number of blended oils that she uses(in addition to nutritional supplementation) and markets (though it is a small-scale company, subject to the usual vicissitudes of the economy). She has a website with a very informative page on eczema that you might find interesting. Seems like you already have covered some of the bases, but I think you'd get some additional tips from Nina's site. Here's the link to the page that addresses eczema specifically: http://www.softress.com/eczema_information.php Hope it gives food for thought. Ann On May 6, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Aiyana Acupuncture wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone have experience using a compound of turmeric and olive oil, or > jojoba, or grapeseed or coconut oils- used topically to treat itchy, red > pediatric eczema? If so, how long did it take to have an effect? Does it > help with acute flare-ups or more in the long term? > > The child, who is my son, is 2 years old, was born with eczema and food > allergies to cow's milk, eggs, all nuts, sesame and other seeds. I dx'd him > with the milk allergy whilst breast feeding because of the presence of > eczema and severe cradle cap, so I removed cow's milk dairy from my diet. > His eczema cleared up with in weeks and has not been a huge problem ever > since (we use oils on skin daily and avoid allergic foods). When he was 6 > months old I have him tested for food allergies befoe I started solids. He > was breastfed for 15 months. > > I do not feed him any allergic foods but 2 weeks ago he came into skin > contact with a large amount of whey protein powder, may have breathed some > in, and immediately broke out into hives, we administered Benedryl > internally, but ever since this incident he has had eczema. When he > scratches his back and behind, it raises into welted hives and becomes > extremely red and irritated. The skin does not ooze. Nothing but Bendryl > cream works to sooth it when it breaks out this badly (have tried fresh > Aloe, Calendula cream and gel, Aveeno, oatmeal baths, the works- in fact it > seems to get more irritated with these things) . I have heard of using sea > salt baths but, if it stings he will refuse/become averse from baths which > is not good for a 2 year old! LOL When he is older we can try this... > > To keep in under control (before this incident and still now), we bath him > in oatmeal daily and have tried Aveeno & Mustela lotions, and use topical > oils -currently using jojoba (can you say expensive!!), used to use coconut > but didn't seem to be moisturising enough or may have actually irritated him > (?) and I am thinking of trying grapeseed oil. I also give him Cod Liver Oil > and Quercitin internally (I think I should increase the dosage of the > Quercitin...Any ideas on that??). > > We also give him this formula from ChildLife. We try to give it to him 1/2 > teaspoon 2x daily but often he refuses it ( I think he doesn't like the > grape flavor. I can give the child bitter Chinese herbal tinctures and he > asks for more, but this no-no LOL) > Aller-Care 4 oz > Formally known as Aller-G-Ease > > Serving size: One teaspoon (5 ml) > Servings per container: 24 > Ingredients per serving: > Amla (Emblica Officinalis) 50 mg > Bromelain 50 mg > MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane) 25 mg > Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) 50 mg > Gingko Biloba 12 mg > Elderberry concentrate 250 mg > Zinc Gluconate 1 mg > > Ingredients: Purified water, glycerine, citric acid, potassium sorbate, and > grapefruit seed extract. > > Interested in comments, suggestions (internal Chinese herbs...Z'ev which > Gentle Warrior?), and if you can point me to any research on natural > remedies. > Myself, my husband and my son are extemely grateful to you. > > Be Well, > Juliette Aiyana, L.Ac., Herbalist, Author > Aiyana Acupuncture & Chinese Herbs > 41 Union Square W. Suite 519 > NY, NY 10003 212-894-0767 > www.amazinghealing.com > www.optionsforweightloss.com > The Book " & Healthy Weight Management An Evidence-based > Integrated Approach " > > Email Confidentiality Statement > Confidential Communication: > This email message and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. > This email and any attachments may be privileged, confidential, and > protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any > dissemination, distribution, or copying is expressly prohibited. If you > received this email message in error, please notify the sender immediately > by replying to this email message or by telephone. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 for treating eczema w/ essential oils the idea would be to subdue the wei qi. you can make a 1-2% blend using calendula lotion; start w/ 1%; use 10 drops of lavender per 1oz. of lotion. or use 5 drops roman chamomile and 5 drops of lavender. violet could also be used, but it is very expensive. be careful not to get any pure oils on the skin of the child since they can burn. good luck, RoseAnne, L.Ac. NYC On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:22 PM, wendy lehnert <digidam wrote: > Juliette, > I have seen topical coconut oil eliminate chronic skin irritations/itching, > facilitate the healing of burns and bug bites, and even improve the > appearance of old scars. I have not recommended it for eczema per se, but > that would be my first suggestion. No special preparation is needed - in my > experience, coconut oil sold at the grocery store for cooking seems to be > good enough. It is solid at room temp but melts quickly on skin contact. > Wendy Lehnert Lic.Ac. > > --- On Thu, 5/6/10, Aiyana Acupuncture <amazinghealing wrote: > > Aiyana Acupuncture <amazinghealing > Topical Tumeric & Olive Oil and Internal Quercitin/Herbs for > Eczema? > " Chinese Herbal Medicine " < > > > Thursday, May 6, 2010, 10:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > Does anyone have experience using a compound of turmeric and olive oil, or > > jojoba, or grapeseed or coconut oils- used topically to treat itchy, red > > pediatric eczema? If so, how long did it take to have an effect? Does it > > help with acute flare-ups or more in the long term? > > > > The child, who is my son, is 2 years old, was born with eczema and food > > allergies to cow's milk, eggs, all nuts, sesame and other seeds. I dx'd him > > with the milk allergy whilst breast feeding because of the presence of > > eczema and severe cradle cap, so I removed cow's milk dairy from my diet. > > His eczema cleared up with in weeks and has not been a huge problem ever > > since (we use oils on skin daily and avoid allergic foods). When he was 6 > > months old I have him tested for food allergies befoe I started solids. He > > was breastfed for 15 months. > > > > I do not feed him any allergic foods but 2 weeks ago he came into skin > > contact with a large amount of whey protein powder, may have breathed some > > in, and immediately broke out into hives, we administered Benedryl > > internally, but ever since this incident he has had eczema. When he > > scratches his back and behind, it raises into welted hives and becomes > > extremely red and irritated. The skin does not ooze. Nothing but Bendryl > > cream works to sooth it when it breaks out this badly (have tried fresh > > Aloe, Calendula cream and gel, Aveeno, oatmeal baths, the works- in fact it > > seems to get more irritated with these things) . I have heard of using sea > > salt baths but, if it stings he will refuse/become averse from baths which > > is not good for a 2 year old! LOL When he is older we can try this... > > > > To keep in under control (before this incident and still now), we bath him > > in oatmeal daily and have tried Aveeno & Mustela lotions, and use topical > > oils -currently using jojoba (can you say expensive!!) , used to use > coconut > > but didn't seem to be moisturising enough or may have actually irritated > him > > (?) and I am thinking of trying grapeseed oil. I also give him Cod Liver > Oil > > and Quercitin internally (I think I should increase the dosage of the > > Quercitin... Any ideas on that??). > > > > We also give him this formula from ChildLife. We try to give it to him 1/2 > > teaspoon 2x daily but often he refuses it ( I think he doesn't like the > > grape flavor. I can give the child bitter Chinese herbal tinctures and he > > asks for more, but this no-no LOL) > > Aller-Care 4 oz > > Formally known as Aller-G-Ease > > > > Serving size: One teaspoon (5 ml) > > Servings per container: 24 > > Ingredients per serving: > > Amla (Emblica Officinalis) 50 mg > > Bromelain 50 mg > > MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane) 25 mg > > Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) 50 mg > > Gingko Biloba 12 mg > > Elderberry concentrate 250 mg > > Zinc Gluconate 1 mg > > > > Ingredients: Purified water, glycerine, citric acid, potassium sorbate, and > > grapefruit seed extract. > > > > Interested in comments, suggestions (internal Chinese herbs...Z'ev which > > Gentle Warrior?), and if you can point me to any research on natural > > remedies. > > Myself, my husband and my son are extemely grateful to you. > > > > Be Well, > > Juliette Aiyana, L.Ac., Herbalist, Author > > Aiyana Acupuncture & Chinese Herbs > > 41 Union Square W. Suite 519 > > NY, NY 10003 212-894-0767 > > www.amazinghealing. com > > www.optionsforweigh tloss.com > > The Book " & Healthy Weight Management An Evidence-based > > Integrated Approach " > > > > Email Confidentiality Statement > > Confidential Communication: > > This email message and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. > > This email and any attachments may be privileged, confidential, and > > protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any > > dissemination, distribution, or copying is expressly prohibited. If you > > received this email message in error, please notify the sender immediately > > by replying to this email message or by telephone. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Thank you RoseAnne! I was actually thinking of putting him in a chamomile & chrysamthemum tea bath. Using essenital the oils are great idea too! And, I'd planned on making an essential oil order soon for my office use and personal use so this in timely info. Be Well, Juliette , RoseAnne Spradlin <roseanne.spradlin wrote: > > for treating eczema w/ essential oils the idea would be to subdue the wei > qi. you can make a 1-2% blend using calendula lotion; start w/ 1%; use 10 > drops of lavender per 1oz. of lotion. or use 5 drops roman chamomile and 5 > drops of lavender. violet could also be used, but it is very expensive. be > careful not to get any pure oils on the skin of the child since they can > burn. > > good luck, > RoseAnne, L.Ac. > NYC > > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:22 PM, wendy lehnert <digidam wrote: > > > Juliette, > > I have seen topical coconut oil eliminate chronic skin irritations/itching, > > facilitate the healing of burns and bug bites, and even improve the > > appearance of old scars. I have not recommended it for eczema per se, but > > that would be my first suggestion. No special preparation is needed - in my > > experience, coconut oil sold at the grocery store for cooking seems to be > > good enough. It is solid at room temp but melts quickly on skin contact. > > Wendy Lehnert Lic.Ac. > > > > --- On Thu, 5/6/10, Aiyana Acupuncture <amazinghealing wrote: > > > > Aiyana Acupuncture <amazinghealing > > Topical Tumeric & Olive Oil and Internal Quercitin/Herbs for > > Eczema? > > " Chinese Herbal Medicine " < > > > > > Thursday, May 6, 2010, 10:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Does anyone have experience using a compound of turmeric and olive oil, or > > > > jojoba, or grapeseed or coconut oils- used topically to treat itchy, red > > > > pediatric eczema? If so, how long did it take to have an effect? Does it > > > > help with acute flare-ups or more in the long term? > > > > > > > > The child, who is my son, is 2 years old, was born with eczema and food > > > > allergies to cow's milk, eggs, all nuts, sesame and other seeds. I dx'd him > > > > with the milk allergy whilst breast feeding because of the presence of > > > > eczema and severe cradle cap, so I removed cow's milk dairy from my diet. > > > > His eczema cleared up with in weeks and has not been a huge problem ever > > > > since (we use oils on skin daily and avoid allergic foods). When he was 6 > > > > months old I have him tested for food allergies befoe I started solids. He > > > > was breastfed for 15 months. > > > > > > > > I do not feed him any allergic foods but 2 weeks ago he came into skin > > > > contact with a large amount of whey protein powder, may have breathed some > > > > in, and immediately broke out into hives, we administered Benedryl > > > > internally, but ever since this incident he has had eczema. When he > > > > scratches his back and behind, it raises into welted hives and becomes > > > > extremely red and irritated. The skin does not ooze. Nothing but Bendryl > > > > cream works to sooth it when it breaks out this badly (have tried fresh > > > > Aloe, Calendula cream and gel, Aveeno, oatmeal baths, the works- in fact it > > > > seems to get more irritated with these things) . I have heard of using sea > > > > salt baths but, if it stings he will refuse/become averse from baths which > > > > is not good for a 2 year old! LOL When he is older we can try this... > > > > > > > > To keep in under control (before this incident and still now), we bath him > > > > in oatmeal daily and have tried Aveeno & Mustela lotions, and use topical > > > > oils -currently using jojoba (can you say expensive!!) , used to use > > coconut > > > > but didn't seem to be moisturising enough or may have actually irritated > > him > > > > (?) and I am thinking of trying grapeseed oil. I also give him Cod Liver > > Oil > > > > and Quercitin internally (I think I should increase the dosage of the > > > > Quercitin... Any ideas on that??). > > > > > > > > We also give him this formula from ChildLife. We try to give it to him 1/2 > > > > teaspoon 2x daily but often he refuses it ( I think he doesn't like the > > > > grape flavor. I can give the child bitter Chinese herbal tinctures and he > > > > asks for more, but this no-no LOL) > > > > Aller-Care 4 oz > > > > Formally known as Aller-G-Ease > > > > > > > > Serving size: One teaspoon (5 ml) > > > > Servings per container: 24 > > > > Ingredients per serving: > > > > Amla (Emblica Officinalis) 50 mg > > > > Bromelain 50 mg > > > > MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane) 25 mg > > > > Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) 50 mg > > > > Gingko Biloba 12 mg > > > > Elderberry concentrate 250 mg > > > > Zinc Gluconate 1 mg > > > > > > > > Ingredients: Purified water, glycerine, citric acid, potassium sorbate, and > > > > grapefruit seed extract. > > > > > > > > Interested in comments, suggestions (internal Chinese herbs...Z'ev which > > > > Gentle Warrior?), and if you can point me to any research on natural > > > > remedies. > > > > Myself, my husband and my son are extemely grateful to you. > > > > > > > > Be Well, > > > > Juliette Aiyana, L.Ac., Herbalist, Author > > > > Aiyana Acupuncture & Chinese Herbs > > > > 41 Union Square W. Suite 519 > > > > NY, NY 10003 212-894-0767 > > > > www.amazinghealing. com > > > > www.optionsforweigh tloss.com > > > > The Book " & Healthy Weight Management An Evidence-based > > > > Integrated Approach " > > > > > > > > Email Confidentiality Statement > > > > Confidential Communication: > > > > This email message and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. > > > > This email and any attachments may be privileged, confidential, and > > > > protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any > > > > dissemination, distribution, or copying is expressly prohibited. If you > > > > received this email message in error, please notify the sender immediately > > > > by replying to this email message or by telephone. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Wendy, Yes coconut oil is wonderful! We use it in his hair daily and we were using it on his skin but lately I can't tell what he is reactive to, so I switched to jojoba. I plan to try the organic coconut oil again. I actually was given a recipe on how to make it at home, which I wish to try (grate it and boil it with water for many, many hours). That is how they do it in the West Indies- all babies in Trinadad are given homemade coconut oil when they are born- so sweet! Be Well, Juliette , wendy lehnert <digidam wrote: > > Juliette, > I have seen topical coconut oil eliminate chronic skin irritations/itching, facilitate the healing of burns and bug bites, and even improve the appearance of old scars. I have not recommended it for eczema per se, but that would be my first suggestion. No special preparation is needed - in my experience, coconut oil sold at the grocery store for cooking seems to be good enough. It is solid at room temp but melts quickly on skin contact. > Wendy Lehnert Lic.Ac. > > --- On Thu, 5/6/10, Aiyana Acupuncture <amazinghealing wrote: > > Aiyana Acupuncture <amazinghealing > Topical Tumeric & Olive Oil and Internal Quercitin/Herbs for Eczema? > " Chinese Herbal Medicine " > Thursday, May 6, 2010, 10:56 AM > > > > > > > > > >  > > > Hello, > > > > Does anyone have experience using a compound of turmeric and olive oil, or > > jojoba, or grapeseed or coconut oils- used topically to treat itchy, red > > pediatric eczema? If so, how long did it take to have an effect? Does it > > help with acute flare-ups or more in the long term? > > > > The child, who is my son, is 2 years old, was born with eczema and food > > allergies to cow's milk, eggs, all nuts, sesame and other seeds. I dx'd him > > with the milk allergy whilst breast feeding because of the presence of > > eczema and severe cradle cap, so I removed cow's milk dairy from my diet. > > His eczema cleared up with in weeks and has not been a huge problem ever > > since (we use oils on skin daily and avoid allergic foods). When he was 6 > > months old I have him tested for food allergies befoe I started solids. He > > was breastfed for 15 months. > > > > I do not feed him any allergic foods but 2 weeks ago he came into skin > > contact with a large amount of whey protein powder, may have breathed some > > in, and immediately broke out into hives, we administered Benedryl > > internally, but ever since this incident he has had eczema. When he > > scratches his back and behind, it raises into welted hives and becomes > > extremely red and irritated. The skin does not ooze. Nothing but Bendryl > > cream works to sooth it when it breaks out this badly (have tried fresh > > Aloe, Calendula cream and gel, Aveeno, oatmeal baths, the works- in fact it > > seems to get more irritated with these things) . I have heard of using sea > > salt baths but, if it stings he will refuse/become averse from baths which > > is not good for a 2 year old! LOL When he is older we can try this... > > > > To keep in under control (before this incident and still now), we bath him > > in oatmeal daily and have tried Aveeno & Mustela lotions, and use topical > > oils -currently using jojoba (can you say expensive!!) , used to use coconut > > but didn't seem to be moisturising enough or may have actually irritated him > > (?) and I am thinking of trying grapeseed oil. I also give him Cod Liver Oil > > and Quercitin internally (I think I should increase the dosage of the > > Quercitin... Any ideas on that??). > > > > We also give him this formula from ChildLife. We try to give it to him 1/2 > > teaspoon 2x daily but often he refuses it ( I think he doesn't like the > > grape flavor. I can give the child bitter Chinese herbal tinctures and he > > asks for more, but this no-no LOL) > > Aller-Care 4 oz > > Formally known as Aller-G-Ease > > > > Serving size: One teaspoon (5 ml) > > Servings per container: 24 > > Ingredients per serving: > > Amla (Emblica Officinalis) 50 mg > > Bromelain 50 mg > > MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane) 25 mg > > Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) 50 mg > > Gingko Biloba 12 mg > > Elderberry concentrate 250 mg > > Zinc Gluconate 1 mg > > > > Ingredients: Purified water, glycerine, citric acid, potassium sorbate, and > > grapefruit seed extract. > > > > Interested in comments, suggestions (internal Chinese herbs...Z'ev which > > Gentle Warrior?), and if you can point me to any research on natural > > remedies. > > Myself, my husband and my son are extemely grateful to you. > > > > Be Well, > > Juliette Aiyana, L.Ac., Herbalist, Author > > Aiyana Acupuncture & Chinese Herbs > > 41 Union Square W. Suite 519 > > NY, NY 10003 212-894-0767 > > www.amazinghealing. com > > www.optionsforweigh tloss.com > > The Book " & Healthy Weight Management An Evidence-based > > Integrated Approach " > > > > Email Confidentiality Statement > > Confidential Communication: > > This email message and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. > > This email and any attachments may be privileged, confidential, and > > protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any > > dissemination, distribution, or copying is expressly prohibited. If you > > received this email message in error, please notify the sender immediately > > by replying to this email message or by telephone. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Hi Ann, Our son is mixed too. Did you know that (do we know each other LOL)? I checked out your friends site- it is very informative and there is even more on there that I do with my son so it feels comforting! Plus I learned mor about supplements - I was thinking of giving him borage oil so now I am convinced! I will try her hair productson him-looks like I can pick them up in the area. Be Well, Juliette , " A. Brameier " <snakeoil.works wrote: > > Hi Juliette, > I have no direct experience with turmeric & olive oil, per se. But a good friend of mine has a biracial daughter, now 16, who had eczema as a very young child. This led my friend thru a search for natural treatment and she ultimately developed a protocol that has worked wonderfully well. As a result of her experience, she formulated a number of blended oils that she uses(in addition to nutritional supplementation) and markets (though it is a small-scale company, subject to the usual vicissitudes of the economy). She has a website with a very informative page on eczema that you might find interesting. Seems like you already have covered some of the bases, but I think you'd get some additional tips from Nina's site. > Here's the link to the page that addresses eczema specifically: > http://www.softress.com/eczema_information.php > > Hope it gives food for thought. > Ann > > On May 6, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Aiyana Acupuncture wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Does anyone have experience using a compound of turmeric and olive oil, or > > jojoba, or grapeseed or coconut oils- used topically to treat itchy, red > > pediatric eczema? If so, how long did it take to have an effect? Does it > > help with acute flare-ups or more in the long term? > > > > The child, who is my son, is 2 years old, was born with eczema and food > > allergies to cow's milk, eggs, all nuts, sesame and other seeds. I dx'd him > > with the milk allergy whilst breast feeding because of the presence of > > eczema and severe cradle cap, so I removed cow's milk dairy from my diet. > > His eczema cleared up with in weeks and has not been a huge problem ever > > since (we use oils on skin daily and avoid allergic foods). When he was 6 > > months old I have him tested for food allergies befoe I started solids. He > > was breastfed for 15 months. > > > > I do not feed him any allergic foods but 2 weeks ago he came into skin > > contact with a large amount of whey protein powder, may have breathed some > > in, and immediately broke out into hives, we administered Benedryl > > internally, but ever since this incident he has had eczema. When he > > scratches his back and behind, it raises into welted hives and becomes > > extremely red and irritated. The skin does not ooze. Nothing but Bendryl > > cream works to sooth it when it breaks out this badly (have tried fresh > > Aloe, Calendula cream and gel, Aveeno, oatmeal baths, the works- in fact it > > seems to get more irritated with these things) . I have heard of using sea > > salt baths but, if it stings he will refuse/become averse from baths which > > is not good for a 2 year old! LOL When he is older we can try this... > > > > To keep in under control (before this incident and still now), we bath him > > in oatmeal daily and have tried Aveeno & Mustela lotions, and use topical > > oils -currently using jojoba (can you say expensive!!), used to use coconut > > but didn't seem to be moisturising enough or may have actually irritated him > > (?) and I am thinking of trying grapeseed oil. I also give him Cod Liver Oil > > and Quercitin internally (I think I should increase the dosage of the > > Quercitin...Any ideas on that??). > > > > We also give him this formula from ChildLife. We try to give it to him 1/2 > > teaspoon 2x daily but often he refuses it ( I think he doesn't like the > > grape flavor. I can give the child bitter Chinese herbal tinctures and he > > asks for more, but this no-no LOL) > > Aller-Care 4 oz > > Formally known as Aller-G-Ease > > > > Serving size: One teaspoon (5 ml) > > Servings per container: 24 > > Ingredients per serving: > > Amla (Emblica Officinalis) 50 mg > > Bromelain 50 mg > > MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane) 25 mg > > Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) 50 mg > > Gingko Biloba 12 mg > > Elderberry concentrate 250 mg > > Zinc Gluconate 1 mg > > > > Ingredients: Purified water, glycerine, citric acid, potassium sorbate, and > > grapefruit seed extract. > > > > Interested in comments, suggestions (internal Chinese herbs...Z'ev which > > Gentle Warrior?), and if you can point me to any research on natural > > remedies. > > Myself, my husband and my son are extemely grateful to you. > > > > Be Well, > > Juliette Aiyana, L.Ac., Herbalist, Author > > Aiyana Acupuncture & Chinese Herbs > > 41 Union Square W. 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Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 haha, no, I don't know you. But Nina told me at one point that it's not unusual for biracial kids to have skin issues. Don't know why that is, but that's why I mentioned it. And yes, it does seem that borage oil is key. She may have used chamomile at some point - I'll have to ask her. I'm not sure if her products are still available in the nyc area, but I can check that too. ann On May 6, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Juliette wrote: > Hi Ann, Our son is mixed too. Did you know that (do we know each other LOL)? I checked out your friends site- it is very informative and there is even more on there that I do with my son so it feels comforting! Plus I learned mor about supplements - I was thinking of giving him borage oil so now I am convinced! I will try her hair productson him-looks like I can pick them up in the area. > Be Well, Juliette > > , " A. Brameier " <snakeoil.works wrote: > > > > Hi Juliette, > > I have no direct experience with turmeric & olive oil, per se. But a good friend of mine has a biracial daughter, now 16, who had eczema as a very young child. This led my friend thru a search for natural treatment and she ultimately developed a protocol that has worked wonderfully well. As a result of her experience, she formulated a number of blended oils that she uses(in addition to nutritional supplementation) and markets (though it is a small-scale company, subject to the usual vicissitudes of the economy). She has a website with a very informative page on eczema that you might find interesting. Seems like you already have covered some of the bases, but I think you'd get some additional tips from Nina's site. > > Here's the link to the page that addresses eczema specifically: > > http://www.softress.com/eczema_information.php > > > > Hope it gives food for thought. > > Ann > > > > On May 6, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Aiyana Acupuncture wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Does anyone have experience using a compound of turmeric and olive oil, or > > > jojoba, or grapeseed or coconut oils- used topically to treat itchy, red > > > pediatric eczema? If so, how long did it take to have an effect? Does it > > > help with acute flare-ups or more in the long term? > > > > > > The child, who is my son, is 2 years old, was born with eczema and food > > > allergies to cow's milk, eggs, all nuts, sesame and other seeds. I dx'd him > > > with the milk allergy whilst breast feeding because of the presence of > > > eczema and severe cradle cap, so I removed cow's milk dairy from my diet. > > > His eczema cleared up with in weeks and has not been a huge problem ever > > > since (we use oils on skin daily and avoid allergic foods). When he was 6 > > > months old I have him tested for food allergies befoe I started solids. He > > > was breastfed for 15 months. > > > > > > I do not feed him any allergic foods but 2 weeks ago he came into skin > > > contact with a large amount of whey protein powder, may have breathed some > > > in, and immediately broke out into hives, we administered Benedryl > > > internally, but ever since this incident he has had eczema. When he > > > scratches his back and behind, it raises into welted hives and becomes > > > extremely red and irritated. The skin does not ooze. Nothing but Bendryl > > > cream works to sooth it when it breaks out this badly (have tried fresh > > > Aloe, Calendula cream and gel, Aveeno, oatmeal baths, the works- in fact it > > > seems to get more irritated with these things) . I have heard of using sea > > > salt baths but, if it stings he will refuse/become averse from baths which > > > is not good for a 2 year old! LOL When he is older we can try this... > > > > > > To keep in under control (before this incident and still now), we bath him > > > in oatmeal daily and have tried Aveeno & Mustela lotions, and use topical > > > oils -currently using jojoba (can you say expensive!!), used to use coconut > > > but didn't seem to be moisturising enough or may have actually irritated him > > > (?) and I am thinking of trying grapeseed oil. I also give him Cod Liver Oil > > > and Quercitin internally (I think I should increase the dosage of the > > > Quercitin...Any ideas on that??). > > > > > > We also give him this formula from ChildLife. We try to give it to him 1/2 > > > teaspoon 2x daily but often he refuses it ( I think he doesn't like the > > > grape flavor. I can give the child bitter Chinese herbal tinctures and he > > > asks for more, but this no-no LOL) > > > Aller-Care 4 oz > > > Formally known as Aller-G-Ease > > > > > > Serving size: One teaspoon (5 ml) > > > Servings per container: 24 > > > Ingredients per serving: > > > Amla (Emblica Officinalis) 50 mg > > > Bromelain 50 mg > > > MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane) 25 mg > > > Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) 50 mg > > > Gingko Biloba 12 mg > > > Elderberry concentrate 250 mg > > > Zinc Gluconate 1 mg > > > > > > Ingredients: Purified water, glycerine, citric acid, potassium sorbate, and > > > grapefruit seed extract. > > > > > > Interested in comments, suggestions (internal Chinese herbs...Z'ev which > > > Gentle Warrior?), and if you can point me to any research on natural > > > remedies. > > > Myself, my husband and my son are extemely grateful to you. > > > > > > Be Well, > > > Juliette Aiyana, L.Ac., Herbalist, Author > > > Aiyana Acupuncture & Chinese Herbs > > > 41 Union Square W. Suite 519 > > > NY, NY 10003 212-894-0767 > > > www.amazinghealing.com > > > www.optionsforweightloss.com > > > The Book " & Healthy Weight Management An Evidence-based > > > Integrated Approach " > > > > > > Email Confidentiality Statement > > > Confidential Communication: > > > This email message and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. > > > This email and any attachments may be privileged, confidential, and > > > protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any > > > dissemination, distribution, or copying is expressly prohibited. If you > > > received this email message in error, please notify the sender immediately > > > by replying to this email message or by telephone. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Hello Juliette, My son also has eczema and when we adopted him two years ago at 1 year of age, he had just been treated chemically for scabies (which was actually a combo of eczema and molluscum, not scabies). The days following he broke out in a severe rash, very red and itchy, followed by secondary infection manifesting as small white fluid-filled pustules, over his entire body, but worse at hands and feet. This lasted for several weeks. During the acute phase, I treated him 5 days internally with Chinese herbs: Huang bai, ku shen, bai xian pi, bai jiang cao to clear heat and dry dampness. This was quite effective at relieving the inflammation and clearing up the secondary infection. However, what remained was still dry, itchy and then only mildly red. This was treated topically with TCM formula of Liu Huang and vaseline (5% concentration for infant, 10% for adult). Our school pharmacy had liu huang, but one can get sulfur cream online and OTC at some pharmacies. I had initially treated this phase also with an internal formula but without improvement. I was a bit leery of the vaseline base, but I will say that it was so effective. We applied it in the evening before bed to the whole body except head and covered his hands with socks and then bathed him in the morning. We did this for two days, twice, I think maybe one month between intervals. The second time cleared it up completely and we haven't had a severe bout with it since, just a few dots on the hands and feet once in a while. We have also bled the toes and fingers at times when it gets bad there, and this has helped, too. My son started refusing milk at 18 months and when he developed asthma during a RTI last summer, we removed the little yogurt he was having from his diet. We have had him on a very restricted diet from the beginning, mostly rice, vegetables, no sweets or greasy food, small amounts of meat and lots of mildly spiced mung bean, whole and split yellow type found in Indian groceries as it is the most easily digested bean. We believe this has helped his eczema greatly and for the first 1.5 year he was home, he did not have any major illness, just one tiny cold at the change of season. Regarding the oils, from an Ayurvedic perspective, I treat my dry, itchy winter vata-type eczema with sesame seed oil (heavy and warm in nature). Coconut oil is considered cooling, but oils are generally not used for pitta (heat/inflammatory) or kapha (weepy/oozing) skin conditions as they tend to aggravate them. Olive oil is also considered warm and heavy, but I have not had any relief from my eczema in contrast to the sesame oil, which at times has completely eliminated it or at least reduced it. When I told a German dermatologist at the Mayo Clinic my remedy, she said preliminary studies in Germany reported the same findings, my guess for dry type of eczema. My husband uses olive oil and turmeric for all sorts musculoskeletal issues on patients, but never for eczema. In India, a paste of turmeric and water or mustard seed oil is a common household remedy for cuts and such. In the school clinic, I have only seen turmeric used topically in a formula for bi syndrome of the hand in accordance with its TCM properties. In relation to the previous post regarding weather and TCM, my eczema is completely related to weather. The first time it appeared was after a 4-month trip in India (warm, humid weather to cold dry midwest ), then during a very, very windy November week in Illinois. Since then I notice that it appears almost every November when the NW winds bring the first bitter cold of winter. Wind is definitely part of the pattern as is an underlying blood deficiency. BTW, the first time it appeared, it was treated topically with TCM herbs and cleared up completely in three days. What I wouldn't do to find out where that IICM student intern ended up and learn what she she used! We have been toying with trying DHA from fish oil for the asthma/eczema and we have used Blue Poppy formula Allerease and Huang qi ren shen tang jia jian, but i find that my son's digestion is not strong enough to digest these tonics. Good luck, Amadea Shakti , Aiyana Acupuncture <amazinghealing wrote: > > Hello, > > Does anyone have experience using a compound of turmeric and olive oil, or > jojoba, or grapeseed or coconut oils- used topically to treat itchy, red > pediatric eczema? If so, how long did it take to have an effect? Does it > help with acute flare-ups or more in the long term? > > The child, who is my son, is 2 years old, was born with eczema and food > allergies to cow's milk, eggs, all nuts, sesame and other seeds. I dx'd him > with the milk allergy whilst breast feeding because of the presence of > eczema and severe cradle cap, so I removed cow's milk dairy from my diet. > His eczema cleared up with in weeks and has not been a huge problem ever > since (we use oils on skin daily and avoid allergic foods). When he was 6 > months old I have him tested for food allergies befoe I started solids. He > was breastfed for 15 months. > > I do not feed him any allergic foods but 2 weeks ago he came into skin > contact with a large amount of whey protein powder, may have breathed some > in, and immediately broke out into hives, we administered Benedryl > internally, but ever since this incident he has had eczema. When he > scratches his back and behind, it raises into welted hives and becomes > extremely red and irritated. The skin does not ooze. Nothing but Bendryl > cream works to sooth it when it breaks out this badly (have tried fresh > Aloe, Calendula cream and gel, Aveeno, oatmeal baths, the works- in fact it > seems to get more irritated with these things) . I have heard of using sea > salt baths but, if it stings he will refuse/become averse from baths which > is not good for a 2 year old! LOL When he is older we can try this... > > To keep in under control (before this incident and still now), we bath him > in oatmeal daily and have tried Aveeno & Mustela lotions, and use topical > oils -currently using jojoba (can you say expensive!!), used to use coconut > but didn't seem to be moisturising enough or may have actually irritated him > (?) and I am thinking of trying grapeseed oil. I also give him Cod Liver Oil > and Quercitin internally (I think I should increase the dosage of the > Quercitin...Any ideas on that??). > > We also give him this formula from ChildLife. We try to give it to him 1/2 > teaspoon 2x daily but often he refuses it ( I think he doesn't like the > grape flavor. I can give the child bitter Chinese herbal tinctures and he > asks for more, but this no-no LOL) > Aller-Care 4 oz > Formally known as Aller-G-Ease > > Serving size: One teaspoon (5 ml) > Servings per container: 24 > Ingredients per serving: > Amla (Emblica Officinalis) 50 mg > Bromelain 50 mg > MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane) 25 mg > Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) 50 mg > Gingko Biloba 12 mg > Elderberry concentrate 250 mg > Zinc Gluconate 1 mg > > Ingredients: Purified water, glycerine, citric acid, potassium sorbate, and > grapefruit seed extract. > > > Interested in comments, suggestions (internal Chinese herbs...Z'ev which > Gentle Warrior?), and if you can point me to any research on natural > remedies. > Myself, my husband and my son are extemely grateful to you. > > > Be Well, > Juliette Aiyana, L.Ac., Herbalist, Author > Aiyana Acupuncture & Chinese Herbs > 41 Union Square W. Suite 519 > NY, NY 10003 212-894-0767 > www.amazinghealing.com > www.optionsforweightloss.com > The Book " & Healthy Weight Management An Evidence-based > Integrated Approach " > > Email Confidentiality Statement > Confidential Communication: > This email message and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. > This email and any attachments may be privileged, confidential, and > protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any > dissemination, distribution, or copying is expressly prohibited. If you > received this email message in error, please notify the sender immediately > by replying to this email message or by telephone. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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