Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Hi All, A friend has approached me about growing organic medical mushrooms for use as herbs in Chinese medicine practice. This is an extensive list of practitioners here, and I am wondering whether anyone would be interested in this kind of service? The companion question is does anyone regularly prescribe mushrooms in their formulas to their patients? Also, I suppose another question is if you already prescribe mushrooms regularly, which species do you regularly prescribe, and who is your supplier? Sincerely, The Database Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I use ling zhi, but I use the cracked spores (ling zhi bao zi fen). I would be interested in getting this from a US source, however their seems to be some technology involved in making this. -Jason On Behalf Of Chinese Medicine Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:50 PM Medical mushrooms Hi All, A friend has approached me about growing organic medical mushrooms for use as herbs in Chinese medicine practice. This is an extensive list of practitioners here, and I am wondering whether anyone would be interested in this kind of service? The companion question is does anyone regularly prescribe mushrooms in their formulas to their patients? Also, I suppose another question is if you already prescribe mushrooms regularly, which species do you regularly prescribe, and who is your supplier? Sincerely, The Database __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Jason, you're a Ling Zhi spore user? What's your take on them? Do you use the " oil " too? I used to work at a place that sold the oil. VERY expensive. Never sure it had any value. Your take? -al. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:33 PM, < > wrote: > > > I use ling zhi, but I use the cracked spores (ling zhi bao zi fen). I would > be interested in getting this from a US source, however their seems to be > some technology involved in making this. > > -Jason > -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. http://twitter.com/algancao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 For the Ling zhi spores, you need a cosmetically fine powdering machine, which I hear costs a lot of dinero. I'd be interested in Turkey Tail mushroom (Yun zhi), which is not as easy to get as many others, but just as important. K On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Al Stone <al wrote: > > > Jason, you're a Ling Zhi spore user? > > What's your take on them? Do you use the " oil " too? I used to work at a > place that sold the oil. VERY expensive. Never sure it had any value. Your > take? > > -al. > > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:33 PM, < > <%40Chinese Medicine>> > wrote: > > > > > > > I use ling zhi, but I use the cracked spores (ling zhi bao zi fen). I > would > > be interested in getting this from a US source, however their seems to be > > some technology involved in making this. > > > > -Jason > > > > -- > , DAOM > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. > http://twitter.com/algancao > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 All right, I am keeping track. I have heard that Lion's mane is being touted as good for multiple sclerosis, has anyone had experience with this? My understanding is that building a grow operation for mushrooms is not hugely complex, but having never done it myself, it will be interesting. I am surprised to hear no clamor for Dong Chong Xia Cao? I actually have it from reputable sources that this mushroom grows right here in Oregon quite naturally. Has anyone used solely mushrooms for the treatment of cancer? One of my peers told me the story of a woman in japan who took nothing but Ling Zhi that her husband gathered for her, and it put her in complete remission after 6 months of treatment. It is hear say as I don't have any documents, but has anyone had experiences like this with their patients? Lastly, Jason what do you use the spores in treatment for? And why only the spores (out of curiosity)? Appreciate the discussion as always. The Database Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Al, Good question, the jury is still out. Quick expensive. I personally have found a quite significant (energetic & taste) difference (in myself) between the reputable brands and the cheap herb market ones. I do not use the oil, do you>? -Jason On Behalf Of Al Stone Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:39 PM Re: Medical mushrooms Jason, you're a Ling Zhi spore user? What's your take on them? Do you use the " oil " too? I used to work at a place that sold the oil. VERY expensive. Never sure it had any value. Your take? -al. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:33 PM, < <%40Chinese Medicine> > wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 The place where I worked touted Reishi spore oil for cancer. This wasn't in print or anything, just one of the keyword diagnosis that they liked. " *Cancer? Oh, you need Reishi oil.* " But after doing some research, I found a website run by what looked like a professional organization made up of Japanese reishi growers. This article was complaining about how unethical it was to promote reishi oil for cancer, because it was unproven. That website is gone, but the google cache remains. *http://tinyurl.com/2dhxpz5 * However there is some interest in the spores and oil in cancer treatment if you look through the research sites. Not sure I would promote the herb as such, though.* *-al.* * On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:44 AM, < > wrote: > > > Al, > > Good question, the jury is still out. Quick expensive. I personally have > found a quite significant (energetic & taste) difference (in myself) > between > the reputable brands and the cheap herb market ones. I do not use the oil, > do you>? > > -Jason > -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. http://twitter.com/algancao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Something I've been seeing around is this 'ganotea' or something like that. I'm always suspicious of anything multi-level / panacea sounding, but does anyone have some first-hand info on that product? , " " wrote: > > Al, > > > > Good question, the jury is still out. Quick expensive. I personally have > found a quite significant (energetic & taste) difference (in myself) between > the reputable brands and the cheap herb market ones. I do not use the oil, > do you>? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 The Cordyceps genus grows around the world, there are a number of species in North America, not sure if anyone really knows how many. The question is can any of the other species be used the same as we use Cordyceps sinensis? Perhaps there is a better species. This would be extraordinary research, but it would take a life's work, I imagine. Who can speak to their experience with the difference between the whole " herb " and the mycelium? I have used both, but I have not used the mycelium enough to say. Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Supposedly, the whole " herb " ... worm part is high in proteins, but is not the significantly powerful medicinal that the fungus is. However, in Tibet, they believe that they go together.... a large golden worm and intact fungus on the head. The problem is people soaking the worm into solutions that make it weight more to get more $, adding things like metal rods or toothpicks inside of the worm etc. I guess if you can't see the fungus on the worm body, it would be even easier to forge a counterfeit, but people still find a way to make fakes. There might be something to the fact that the Cordyceps sinensis grows at such a high altitude in mineral-rich soil. I've seen other species' on youtube in the jungles of South America. Do the indigenous healers use Cordyceps there? K On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 6:37 PM, wrote: > > > The Cordyceps genus grows around the world, there are a number of species > in > North America, not sure if anyone really knows how many. The question is > can > any of the other species be used the same as we use Cordyceps sinensis? > Perhaps there is a better species. This would be extraordinary research, > but > it would take a life's work, I imagine. > > Who can speak to their experience with the difference between the whole > " herb " and the mycelium? I have used both, but I have not used the mycelium > enough to say. > > Thomas > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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