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> ..I'll probably cheat a little and have some . . .

 

LOL Unfair unfair! No fair trying to make the new veggies drool for what they

can no longer eat!!! ;=) But hey, your mention of gravy reminds me to ask if

you have a favourite veggie gravy suitable for - say - non-spicy veggie meals -

the kind of thing you might put over a tofu or nut loaf or have with your

mashed potatoes and all your Thanksgiving food (minus the t*rkey, of course).

 

Anyone who loves gravy must have one such recipe - or two or three ;=)

 

> However, if I'm in San Fran by then, I'll probably just do a big veggie

> thing with my best friend and some of his friends...

 

Sounds perfect!

 

> I " m really not in to Tofurkey...but I also don't see tofu and other so

> called " meat substitutes " as such....I see them as another type of food. . .

 

Well, they are!

 

Best,

Pat ;=)

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Pat wrote:

> LOL Unfair unfair! No fair trying to make the new veggies drool for what

> they

> can no longer eat!!! ;=) But hey, your mention of gravy reminds me to ask

> if

> you have a favourite veggie gravy suitable for - say - non-spicy veggie

> meals -

> the kind of thing you might put over a tofu or nut loaf or have with your

> mashed potatoes and all your Thanksgiving food (minus the t*rkey, of

> course).

>

> Anyone who loves gravy must have one such recipe - or two or three ;=)

 

Well, there's always a mushroom gravy, but I think the one I'm thinking of

uses beef broth...*ponders* I'll fool around with it and try using veggie

broth and see what I come up with...

 

Acctually, my favorite thing in the whole world is gravy over rice...If I

can come up with a good tasting veggie gravy, I'll be a very happy woman!

:)

 

Oh, and to clarify, I'm probably about 99% veggie...although, every once

in a great while I'll " cheat " ...

 

> > However, if I'm in San Fran by then, I'll probably just do a big veggie

> > thing with my best friend and some of his friends...

>

> Sounds perfect!

 

It's so much easier to be veggie on the west coast though...a lot more

options and places to get foods...here it's twice as expensive to find

organic stuff than it is out there...and it's not all *that* cheap out

there either....

 

> > I & quot;m really not in to Tofurkey...but I also don't see tofu and

> other so

> > called & quot;meat substitutes & quot; as such....I see them as another

> type of food. . .

>

> Well, they are!

 

LOL...well, I try to explain that to my carnivorous friends...they always

complain about how tofu " doesn't taste like meat " and I tell them: " Duh.

Of course it doesn't because it isn't! " I don't expect it to, so I do all

right with tofu.

 

But here's the question: Boca Burgers or Gardenburgers?

 

Gina

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This is where I am still learning about vegetarianism, trying to

understand the various mindsets [as well as mine].

 

Question: If you drool at the smell of cooked me*t [see, I'm

learning] then are you honestly a vegetarian, or just a culinary

masochist?

 

Kevin

 

>

> > ..I'll probably cheat a little and have some . . .

>

> LOL Unfair unfair! No fair trying to make the new veggies drool for

what they

> can no longer eat!!!

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Oh, clearly Gardenburgers. I think the Dalai Lama would agree on this

point.

 

But then, isn't it a bit vegan-insensitive to call them burgers?

 

Kevin

 

>

> But here's the question: Boca Burgers or Gardenburgers?

>

> Gina

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Morning Star Pizza Burgers, and soy cheese!!!!

 

Cyndi

>^. .^<

 

 

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:06:11 -0000 " feline_rancher "

<feline_rancher writes:

 

Oh, clearly Gardenburgers. I think the Dalai Lama would agree on this

point.

 

But then, isn't it a bit vegan-insensitive to call them burgers?

 

Kevin

 

>

> But here's the question: Boca Burgers or Gardenburgers?

>

> Gina

 

 

 

 

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Yes I agree with Selena, and gardenburgers has just a virtual cornacopia of

flavors,and since you said that boca tastes too much like meat, do you know what

it is about meat that poeple like and that gives it it's flavor?........ It is

the blood. Early on in my vegeterian studies, this would be over 20 years ago,

I was privy to an experiement at a major university in which they centrifuged

the blood out of a piece of meat. It was a tasteless mass of grissle that nobody

wanted to eat. I wonder how Boca gets their meatless patties to taste so close

to meat? Although I do not eat faux meat products, my children do, and when they

have friends over for a meal, their first time, friends that know we are

vegeterian, they love to fool them with the soy chicken and morningstar sausage

patties, which my parents tell me are pretty damn close to the real thing!!! Oh

the wonders of modern science!! Now if they could only make a brussel sprout

that tasted like chocolate cake, I suspect we would

convert the whole world to vegeterianism!!!

 

Selena <austinrengirl wrote:LOL-- Definately Gardenburgers... Boca

tastes TOO much like meat for

me.

-selena

 

 

> But here's the question: Boca Burgers or Gardenburgers?

>

> Gina

 

 

 

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>Now if they could only make a brussel sprout that tasted like chocolate cake,

>I suspect we would

> convert the whole world to vegeterianism!!!

 

LOL Fantastic idea!!!! Any scientists in the crowd????

 

Best,

 

Pat ;=)

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I love GardenBurgers " Portabella rice " and many other of their things, although

their hot wings are horrid. I prefere Boca breakfast sausage, but I agree the

burger and loose burger taste too real, ew. Another really good one is

Morningstar, their hotdogs are liked more then the real ones by everyone who

trys them at my house, and their fiesta burger is really good.:} Also, if anyone

misses the turkey pastrami in a sandwich(especially newly vegetarians) I find

that the Smart Deli Bacon tastes nicely close.

 

 

--- Mark Jackson <thesportsguru47 wrote:

Yes I agree with Selena, and gardenburgers has just a virtual cornacopia of

flavors,and since you said that boca tastes too much like meat, do you know what

it is about meat that poeple like and that gives it it's flavor?........ It is

the blood. Early on in my vegeterian studies, this would be over 20 years ago,

I was privy to an experiement at a major university in which they centrifuged

the blood out of a piece of meat. It was a tasteless mass of grissle that nobody

wanted to eat. I wonder how Boca gets their meatless patties to taste so close

to meat? Although I do not eat faux meat products, my children do, and when they

have friends over for a meal, their first time, friends that know we are

vegeterian, they love to fool them with the soy chicken and morningstar sausage

patties, which my parents tell me are pretty damn close to the real thing!!! Oh

the wonders of modern science!! Now if they could only make a brussel sprout

that tasted like chocolate cake, I suspect we

would

convert the whole world to vegeterianism!!!

 

Selena <austinrengirl wrote:LOL-- Definately Gardenburgers... Boca

tastes TOO much like meat for

me.

-selena

 

 

> But here's the question: Boca Burgers or Gardenburgers?

>

> Gina

 

 

 

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At 05:33 PM 9/13/2004, you wrote:

>Morning Star Pizza Burgers, and soy cheese!!!!

>

>Cyndi

> >^. .^<

 

Hmmm...I'll have to try them...

 

Which brand of soy cheese is good? I'm kind of wary since I can be a bit of

a cheese snob...:)

 

Gina

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At 05:06 PM 9/13/2004, you wrote:

 

>Oh, clearly Gardenburgers. I think the Dalai Lama would agree on this

>point.

>

>But then, isn't it a bit vegan-insensitive to call them burgers?

>

>Kevin

 

Well, I don't think so...because it is a burger in the sense of stuff put

together and made in to a patty...*shrug*

 

Gina

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At 10:07 PM 9/13/2004, you wrote:

>LOL-- Definately Gardenburgers... Boca tastes TOO much like meat for

>me.

>-selena

 

See, I can't decide...I like the garlic Bocas, but you're right, they taste

a lot like meat...but I really like the Gardenburgers because they have a

high mushroom content (I LOVE mushrooms)...

 

Oh, and FYI:

Amtrak serves Gardenburgers on their trains (that's how I was introduced to

them) and I was rather impressed that they had thought to have some sort of

veggie snack...it definitely helped when I got sick of eating all the

hummus I brought with me...:)

 

Gina

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At 07:35 AM 9/14/2004, you wrote:

>Oh the wonders of modern science!! Now if they could only make a brussel

>sprout that tasted like chocolate cake, I suspect we would

>convert the whole world to vegeterianism!!!

 

*laugh* Heck, if they did *that* even *I* would eat brussel sprouts then!

 

Gina

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At 01:37 PM 9/14/2004, you wrote:

>OMG, ROFL!!! (If you drool at the smell of cooked me*t [see, I'm

>learning] then are you honestly a vegetarian, or just a culinary masochist?)

 

HEHE...if that makes you a culinary masochist, what would make one a

culinary sadist??

 

*evilgrin*

Gina

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Gina,

 

I've tried every brand I could get my hands on [low cholesterol

objective here] and not a single one tasted even decent, IMHO.

 

My view is that " soy cheese " is an oxymoron.

 

Kevin

*********

>

> Which brand of soy cheese is good? I'm kind of wary since I can be

a bit of

> a cheese snob...:)

>

> Gina

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That would be someone who puts ribeye steaks on the grill when their

culinary masochist friends come over for dinner, then serve them

garden burgers....

 

Kevin

*****

>

> HEHE...if that makes you a culinary masochist, what would make one

a

> culinary sadist??

>

> *evilgrin*

> Gina

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Gina,

I use Veggie Slices ( Galaxy Nutritional Foods ), but I'm not a cheese

fan, so it tastes fine to me. I prefer soy cheese ON something, like a

pattie, and not to eat plain!!!! lol

 

Cyndi

>^. .^<

 

 

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 00:46:38 -0400 Gina <webdyke writes:

At 05:33 PM 9/13/2004, you wrote:

>Morning Star Pizza Burgers, and soy cheese!!!!

>

>Cyndi

> >^. .^<

 

Hmmm...I'll have to try them...

 

Which brand of soy cheese is good? I'm kind of wary since I can be a bit

of

a cheese snob...:)

 

Gina

 

 

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Cyndi,

 

Yes definitely, you need to have something that will mask that

silicon-sealing-cement aroma [and texture] of most soy cheeses...

 

Maybe it's just me..

 

 

Kevin

 

******

 

 

I prefer soy cheese ON something, like a

> pattie, and not to eat plain!!!! lol

>

> Cyndi

> >^. .^<

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LOL - exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Cyndi

>^. .^<

 

 

On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:15:25 -0000 " feline_rancher "

<feline_rancher writes:

Cyndi,

 

Yes definitely, you need to have something that will mask that

silicon-sealing-cement aroma [and texture] of most soy cheeses...

 

Maybe it's just me..

 

 

Kevin

 

******

 

 

I prefer soy cheese ON something, like a

> pattie, and not to eat plain!!!! lol

>

> Cyndi

> >^. .^<

 

 

 

 

 

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I vote for the Toffuti line of packaged sliced (un)cheese and their

cream (un)cheese.

 

>Which brand of soy cheese is good? I'm kind of wary since I can be a

bit of

>a cheese snob...:)

>

>Gina

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Yum ~ that sounds good, I'll have to look. We love Toffuti!! My hubby is

not a total vegetarian, but I asked him to give Toffuti a try, as he ate

ice cream every nite.

PS - He hasn't gone back to ice cream, and it's been several months!!!

YES

Cyndi

>^. .^<

 

 

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 04:49:47 -0400 " Maida Genser " <maidawg

writes:

I vote for the Toffuti line of packaged sliced (un)cheese and their

cream (un)cheese.

 

>Which brand of soy cheese is good? I'm kind of wary since I can be a

bit of

>a cheese snob...:)

>

>Gina

 

 

 

 

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Heh heh heh - dratted meat eaters - can't trust em. Not only do they eat you-

know-what but they eat up a gal's Toffuti! Lay in a double supply!

 

And good work - months, you say! so much healthier too ;=)

 

Best,

 

Pat ;=)

 

> Yum ~ that sounds good, I'll have to look. We love Toffuti!! My hubby is

> not a total vegetarian, but I asked him to give Toffuti a try, as he ate

> ice cream every nite.

> PS - He hasn't gone back to ice cream, and it's been several months!!!

> YES

> Cyndi

> >^. .^<

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I usually use Del Sunshine, which sadly has trace amounts of Casein in it, but

is very affordable and does melt nicely. I will try thr Tofutti and see if it

isn't the one I can get everyone to use.Thanks

 

--- " Maida Genser " <maidawg wrote:

I vote for the Toffuti line of packaged sliced (un)cheese and their

cream (un)cheese.

 

>Which brand of soy cheese is good? I'm kind of wary since I can be a

bit of

>a cheese snob...:)

>

>Gina

 

 

 

 

 

 

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