Guest guest Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Okay ;=) Let's see why your Group Owner and Co-Moderator and Poll-putter- upper and fellow vegetarian used the word 'flesh' in one of the polls LOL No offence was intended. The word is easily understood, is translatable into a number of (European) languages without much change and into other languages without confusion, is used as a description of one or more ingredients in many cuisines, and is old enough to go back to humankind's earliest and most and by some most revered writings. Animal meat IS flesh. Not good enough? Okay, let's try again. How about Carrion? That was used by Kevin in his original email regarding why people are vegetarian. That didn't offend anyone, it seems. But carrion suggest what vultures eat, and some find that an unattractive thought too. How about Meat? That's an all-roundie and a goodie, covers a lot of territory, or does it? Some people use the terms Meat to mean beef. Others use it to mean everything except poultry and fish (and 'fish' is troublesome too, since some water animals aren't what we call fish). I shoulda changed it for polls A and B :=( Already someone has written to say there was no option for seafood. Now I could have said, to avoid any confusion, and to be absolutely explicit about what I meant, 'any animal, domesticated or wild, mammal or otherwise, that walks, hops, flies, swims or just lives in water, whether or not . . . ' But I chose the good old-fashioned term 'flesh' - it is unambiguous, descriptive and, I would say, easily understood by everyone ;=) Understood? Best, Pat ;=) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Ok, so we disagree - not at ALL a problem for me! Cyndi >^. .^< On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:30:35 -0000 " greenfury2004 " <greenfury2004 writes: Okay ;=) Let's see why your Group Owner and Co-Moderator and Poll-putter- upper and fellow vegetarian used the word 'flesh' in one of the polls LOL No offence was intended. The word is easily understood, is translatable into a number of (European) languages without much change and into other languages without confusion, is used as a description of one or more ingredients in many cuisines, and is old enough to go back to humankind's earliest and most and by some most revered writings. Animal meat IS flesh. Not good enough? Okay, let's try again. How about Carrion? That was used by Kevin in his original email regarding why people are vegetarian. That didn't offend anyone, it seems. But carrion suggest what vultures eat, and some find that an unattractive thought too. How about Meat? That's an all-roundie and a goodie, covers a lot of territory, or does it? Some people use the terms Meat to mean beef. Others use it to mean everything except poultry and fish (and 'fish' is troublesome too, since some water animals aren't what we call fish). I shoulda changed it for polls A and B :=( Already someone has written to say there was no option for seafood. Now I could have said, to avoid any confusion, and to be absolutely explicit about what I meant, 'any animal, domesticated or wild, mammal or otherwise, that walks, hops, flies, swims or just lives in water, whether or not . . .. ' But I chose the good old-fashioned term 'flesh' - it is unambiguous, descriptive and, I would say, easily understood by everyone ;=) Understood? Best, Pat ;=) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 I would just like to add that words have meaning and power, and if you take the time to study them as I do, being an amateur etymologist, the word meat goes back to the greek which simply means item of food. It was meant to distinguish it from drink, It refered more often to a grain dish being at that time man's principal diet was grain. When man's diet turned to animal flesh, then the term was applied to this food, which became his " Meat " To call it animal flesh is not improper, and in fact more correct. MARK greenfury2004 <greenfury2004 wrote: Okay ;=) Let's see why your Group Owner and Co-Moderator and Poll-putter- upper and fellow vegetarian used the word 'flesh' in one of the polls LOL No offence was intended. The word is easily understood, is translatable into a number of (European) languages without much change and into other languages without confusion, is used as a description of one or more ingredients in many cuisines, and is old enough to go back to humankind's earliest and most and by some most revered writings. Animal meat IS flesh. Not good enough? Okay, let's try again. How about Carrion? That was used by Kevin in his original email regarding why people are vegetarian. That didn't offend anyone, it seems. But carrion suggest what vultures eat, and some find that an unattractive thought too. How about Meat? That's an all-roundie and a goodie, covers a lot of territory, or does it? Some people use the terms Meat to mean beef. Others use it to mean everything except poultry and fish (and 'fish' is troublesome too, since some water animals aren't what we call fish). I shoulda changed it for polls A and B :=( Already someone has written to say there was no option for seafood. Now I could have said, to avoid any confusion, and to be absolutely explicit about what I meant, 'any animal, domesticated or wild, mammal or otherwise, that walks, hops, flies, swims or just lives in water, whether or not . . . ' But I chose the good old-fashioned term 'flesh' - it is unambiguous, descriptive and, I would say, easily understood by everyone ;=) Understood? Best, Pat ;=) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Actually I was trying to be cute. I have heard vegetarian friends refer to non-vegs as 'carrion eaters', sort of a light-hearted insult. Carrion is by definition putrifying flesh that is not suitable for consumption, unless yuou are avulture or jackal; the source of the insult. Never bothered me much though... Kevin > > How about Carrion? That was used by Kevin in his original email regarding > why people are vegetarian. That didn't offend anyone, it seems. But carrion > suggest what vultures eat, and some find that an unattractive thought too. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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