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> The issue is that special characters typed on a PC don't

> translate correctly to the non-PC world.

 

A NEW NOT-RULE (YET): No more strange symbols. Key them in the old-

fashioned way.

 

I'm truly with laurieadrienne and Gypsy on this one - but it seemed to me that I

was the only one and so I read all such on the web - it avoids all that problem.

But it is inconvenient. Pretty much anything was okay when this list first

started

out mid-May, cuz we were small. But it's a bit bigger now - and I think we need

to be more considerate of ALL people ALL the time, okay?LOL It's a tough

world out there, but here it should be safe and warm and welcoming to

everyone, regardless of computer of origin, race, religion, creed (whoops,

wrong speech) ;=)

 

Okay, let's just put it THIS way: Mac users from henceforth on this list will no

longer consider themselves a persecuted minority. We will ask that ALL

posters to the list, even if they chip the messages out in stone or inscribe

them

on a clay or wax tablet, write in crayon or whatever, will observe that we ALL

need to be able to 'read' them without difficulty.

 

AND, may I add, that includes those members who are unsighted and whose

screenreaders may have trouble making sense of some of those strange

characters that sometimes jump across the screen. They should be able to

'read' without difficulty. Make it easier for everyone, I figure ;=)

 

AND NOW if there are problems reading, please simply ASK the poster to

clarify - we all make mistakes, forget, whatever. If there are problems that are

more than saying 'was that one-quarter cup, Pat, or 4 cups?' etc., and it is

something that can be solved by the moderators, please address to the

Moderators:

 

-owner

 

That way we won't be bothering a whole list about something that is more

easily solved elsewhere ;=) Not that we're not all interested . . . . .

 

So there you go. A NEW NOT-RULE (YET): No more strange symbols, okay?

Key them in the old-fashioned way!

 

As you were, ladles and jellyspoons ;=)

 

(And thank you, laurieadrienne, for clarifying (everyone see below).

 

Best,

Pat ;=)

 

> The issue is that special characters typed on a PC don't

> translate correctly to the non-PC world. Any character that you

> type on your PC by holding down the Control key and typing

> another character will not display correctly on a Mac. Or, in some

> programs one can go to a menu where you can select " special "

> characters such as trademark symbols, bullets, measurements,

> etc. -- and again, us Mac folks won't be able to see those

> correctly. To us they are seen as weird computer code or bizarre

> characters. . . .

> What our new member is requesting is that everyone avoid

> using those

> > symbols on their computers - those using Windows - and use

> instead

> > something like: 1/2 - that is to say, the large numberal one

> followed by the

> > forward slash followed by the next numeral (in this case either

> 2 or 4).

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, " greenfury2004 " <greenfury2004>

wrote:

> We will ask that ALL

> posters to the list, even if they chip the messages out in stone or inscribe

them

> on a clay or wax tablet, write in crayon or whatever, will observe that we ALL

> need to be able to 'read' them without difficulty.

 

Hee hee! Pat, you crack me up about chipping messages out of stone! LOL!

 

> AND, may I add, that includes those members who are unsighted and whose

> screenreaders may have trouble making sense of some of those strange

> characters that sometimes jump across the screen. They should be able to

> 'read' without difficulty. Make it easier for everyone, I figure ;=)

 

This is an excellent point that I hadn't thought of, but should have. I'm sure

that you're

right that software that " speaks " words for unsighted people would not know how

to

interpret special characters.

 

> AND NOW if there are problems reading, please simply ASK the poster to

> clarify - we all make mistakes, forget, whatever.

 

Y'know, this raises another issue that has been on my mind. I feel bad when I

post recipes

using non-metric measurements cuz I know this doesn't translate to many folks in

the

world. When I post recipes I'd be happy to also include metric measurements if

only I knew

what they were. (Sadly, they don't teach us this here.) Does anyone have a

conversion list

they could post here, maybe in the files section, if that's okay with Pat and

Mark?

 

Again, I don't feel this should be a rule, but I'm happy to include this

conversion as a

courtesy to others.

 

Laurie

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> TADAAA!!! http://www.sciencemadesimple.net/conversions.html

 

Thanks for the link to and from metric measurements, Beth. I've bookmarked it

- and I shall also put it somewhere in the Links section ;=)

 

However, I think it would be difficult for members to have to convert every time

they want to post a recipe. If you can manage that, fine. If not, then I think

that

this link of Beth's will help us all to convert when we want to *make* the

recipe. Good idea.

 

Best, Pat

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