Guest guest Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Hi All, I had to comment on the article " How safe is soy " which I left below. I've been a veg since I was 14, over 33 years. I raised 2 children vegetarian, and they always drank soy milk and ate tofu. They never had rickets, stunted growth, and all that stuff listed below. Matter of fact, my 15 year old son is almost 6 feet tall and still growing. I'm sending that article to other lists I moderate for more accurate info. I can't believe it's true. I've never heard of the author either. It sounds like something the meat/dairy industry put together. ~Debbie On 8 Dec 2004 12:43:26 -0000 writes: > Message: 13 > Wed, 08 Dec 2004 05:13:50 -0000 > " Mary Elizabeth " <faeriepinkie > soy " foods " > > I have read that the safest way to eat soy products is if they are > fernented.Such things as tempeh,miso,and tamari are fermented, and > don't inhibit the enzymes > Try a Google search - " Unfermented Soy-Food? " You will be very > surprised to see that it really isn't that healthy. > MaryElizabeth > > Message: 15 > Wed, 08 Dec 2004 05:43:38 -0000 > " Mary Elizabeth " <faeriepinkie > More on soy foods > > > HOW SAFE IS SOY? > By Susun S Weed > Condensation of an article in NewLife Mag, May '96, by Sally > Fallon, > M.A. and Mary Enig, Ph.D. > With widespread concern about the possible unhealthy effects of > commercial meat and cows' milk many more people than before are > using > soy products as substitutes for animal products. Soy products are > supposed to be high protein, low calorie, devoid of cholesterol, > and > easy to digest. The authors disagree on most of these counts. > > > Click here for a printable version of this article. > > Soybeans were one of the five sacred grains in the Orient according > to > records dating back to before 1134. Agricultural reports speak > frequently of using soybeans in crop rotation (to fix nitrogen and > thus improve soil fertility) but there is no indication that > soybeans > were eaten until fermentation processes were discovered, sometime > around 440 BCE. The first soy products eaten by people were tempeh, > natto, miso, and shoyu tamari. And it was not until some centuries > later (2nd century BCE) that the process of making tofu was > discovered. > > While it is true that the people of the Orient have relied heavily > on > tofu as a source of protein for about a thousand years, this is not > necessarily by choice nor beneficial. The early Chinese did not eat > soybeans, although they did eat other pulses, because they > recognized > the large quantities of a number of harmful substances which have > been > well studied scientifically. Some of the most detrimental are > potent > trypsin inhibitors which block the action of enzymes needed for > protein digestion. Soybeans also contain hemagglutinin, which > causes > red blood cells to lump together. Soybeans are also high in > phytates, > an organic acids which blocks the uptake of calcium, magnesium, > iron, > and especially zinc and contributes to widespread mineral > deficiencies. In fact there are more phytates in soybeans than in > any > other grain, bean, or plant studied and these phytates are > remarkably > resistant to reduction techniques. Only a long period of > fermentation > will significantly reduce the phytate content. > > Another way to moderate the harmful effects of tofu and other > unfermented soybean products is to eat tofu with meat or fish, as > is > traditionally done in the Orient. Vegetarians - especially > vegetarian > children - who eat tofu and drink soy milk as substitutes for meat > and > dairy products are at very high risk of loss of bone mass and > severe > mineral deficiencies. Oriental children who eat soy but no meat, > eggs, > or dairy often suffer from rickets, stunted growth, and lowered > intelligence. Unfermented soy virtually destroys all zinc in the > body; > and zinc is critical for optimal development and functioning of the > brain, nervous system and immune system. > > To what do we owe the current upsurge in use of soy products such > as > TVP and tofu in America? Most of the 140 billion pounds of soybeans > raised in the USA every year are made into animal feed or pressed > into > soy oil. > > The soy industry has concentrated for 20 years on creating markets > for > the byproducts of soy oil manufacture: lecithin and soy protein. > But > these were generally (and rightly) considered " poverty foods " and > rejected by most consumers. > > The soy industry recognized that, according to a spokesman: " The > quickest way to gain product acceptability in a less affluent > market > is to have the product consumed on its own merit by those who are > more > affluent. " Thus these soy byproducts have been cleverly marketed to > resemble traditional foods: soy milk malteds, soy baby formula, soy > yogurt, soy ice cream, coy cheese, soy hot dogs, and so on. Let's > face > it: these are fake products, not health foods. > > The production of soy milk does remove trypsin inhibitors, but at > the > expense of denaturing the proteins, making them indigestible, of > creating a carcinogen, lysinealine, and of reducing the cystine > content, an essential amino acid which is already very low in > soybeans. The phytate content remains, further deranging the diet. > > Soy formula and soy milk is often made with soy protein isolate, an > extremely refined product lacking virtually all minerals and > vitamins. > Many soy formulas sold for infants are rich in trypsin-inhibitors > which can stunt growth. And all contain staggering amounts of > mineral-depleting phytates. The aluminum content of soy formula is > 100 > times greater than unprocessed milk. Aluminum has a toxic effects > on > infants kidneys and may be a cause of Alzheimer's in adults. Soy > formula lack three important nutrients found in all milk: > cholesterol, > which is essential for brain development, and lactose and > galactose, > which play vital roles in the development and functioning of the > nerves. > > All is not what it seems with the supposed health benefits of soy. > Allergies to soy are at least as common as allergies to milk. > Nitrosamines, potent carcinogens often associated with meat, are > found > in high concentrations in all commercial soy protein foods. > Isoflavones, anticarcinogenic sub-stances present in soybeans may > have > a pro-cancer effect when consumed unfermented. Although soybeans > contain large amounts of omega-3 fatty acids, these acids are > particularly susceptible to rancidity when subjected to the high > heat > and pressure require to remove the oil from the bean; such > rancidity > promotes cancer and heart disease. Additionally, all soy oil is > extracted with a solvent, traces of which remain in the oil. > > In addition to containing anti-nutrients, soybeans lack these > important nutritional elements (found in all animal products): > cysteine, vitamin B12, vitamins A and D, and cholesterol. > Consumption > of unfermented soy products actually increases the body's needs for > vitamin D and vitamin B12. > > To summarize: traditional fermented soy products, especially when > made > with organic beans, are beneficial in the diet when combined with > rice, sea foods, and fermented vegetables. The value of other soy > products is questionable at best, disease causing at worst. The use > of > soy as a primary protein source is misguided. > > Condensed by Susun Weed, PO Box 64, Woodstock, NY 12498 > (845-246-8081) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Hi Debbie, Thanks so much for writing in - I saw this article on another list and had to sit on my hands to prevent me from writing/flaming back in an inappropriate manner. My response would have started with nasty remarks about some researchers having their 'work' sponsored by the meat and dairy industries and escalated from there LOL Wonder what the trouble is? Too few turkeys being murdered lately?? Oh I am soooooo annoyed. Btw, what lists do you moderate? (I asked, so you can now feel free to 'advertise' on list in response ;=)) Please, don't forget you and others are welcome to add the lists your moderate to the Links section - the top folder there is set up for that purpose and we would really like to be able to know so that we can find compatible lists. We all belong to a bunch, so it might as well be lists belonging to people we respect and know. . . . Best, Pat ;=) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 I received this more informative information on the safety of soy from another list (OptimalNutrition ) just today: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 20:30:44 -0000 " Brad Forgy " <brad_forgy Soy Safety See http://www.veganoutreach.org/health/soysafe.html Enjoy your soy! Blessings Brad Forgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 > See > > http://www.veganoutreach.org/health/soysafe.html That's a really good and informative article! Thanks so much Maida - you're a gem! I am going to pass this link on (that's okay, isn't it? It doesn't violate copyright or privacy if I just pass on the link.) to one of my other lists - people are always worried about soy these days. This should help one person in particular who really really needs the protein in soy, so your friend of the other list is doing an especially good turn ;=) Please thank him for me! Best, Pat ;=) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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