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Kim there's a great Thanksgiving book for kids. I think it's called the

last TG Anyway, the gist is that a grade school visits a turkey farm and

winds up letting the turkeys lose.

 

You might want to think about adopting a turkey from farm sanctuary for your

class this TG...they'll send you photo and history of your turkey.

Barbara

 

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> 1. Vegetarian, Peach Pancakes

> " Dancer^ " <coolcook

> 2. Vegetarian Lentil-Nut Loaf

> " Dancer^ " <coolcook

> 3. Re: Re[2]: McD petition

> Lakisha <lx21213

> 4. Tortilla Treat

> " kim bower " <wi1622

> 5. Re: Tortilla Treat

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> Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:38:09 -0500

> " Dancer^ " <coolcook

> Vegetarian, Peach Pancakes

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> Vegetarian, Peach Pancakes

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> 1 cup whole wheat flour

> 1 cup soy milk

> 2 teaspoons baking powder

> 1/2 teaspoon salt

> 1 teaspoon cinnamon

> 1 tablespoon maple syrup

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> Combine all of the ingredients and allow to sit for a few minutes.

> Meanwhile, peel and chop three small peaches.

> Add the peaches to the batter and stir gently.

> Cook as you would any other pancake.

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> Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:38:37 -0500

> " Dancer^ " <coolcook

> Vegetarian Lentil-Nut Loaf

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> Vegetarian Lentil-Nut Loaf

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> 1 c. lentils, washed

> 2 cs. water

> 1 large onion, chopped

> 1 cs. mushrooms, chopped

> 2 tbsps. oil

> 1 c. nuts, ground

> 1 c. breadcrumbs

> 1 tbsp. lemon juice

> 1 tbsp. soy sauce

> salt & pepper

> 1 tbsp. mixed herbs

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> Cook lentils in water till soft (1/2 hour). Saute onions & mushrooms in oil

> till soft. Mix with remaining ingredients. Place in a greased baking pan &

> bake at 350F for 30 minutes. Garnish with parsley.

> Makes 4 servings.

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> Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:37:19 -0800 (PST)

> Lakisha <lx21213

> Re: Re[2]: McD petition

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> I'm not sure if this was the group that I originally

> got this information from but as quiet as is kept,

> McDonald's cooks its fries in " meat oil " . They call

> it Natural Flavor.

> How deceiving!!!

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> --- Bethie1480 wrote:

>> I wouldn't trust Mc Donalds....FOR

>> ANYTHING..especially vegan food!

>> Just my opinion!

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> Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place.

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> Mon, 06 Nov 2000 20:35:01 EST

> " kim bower " <wi1622

> Tortilla Treat

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> Hi all,

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> I got home and was hungry so I mashed up

> two avacodos, to which I added some handy, dandy, thick and chunky salsa,

> and filled a couple tortilla's. Instant Yummy:-)

> On a side note I work in a school as an assistant in a first grade class and

> got talking with kids about vegetarianism.

> I had been doing Halloween songs with them during transition and wait times,

> but now that's gone by I was trying to think fast and I came up with a

> turkey song for Thanksgiving. By way of introduction I told the kids that I

> thought the song was cute for the holiday, but I don't really eat animals.

> One girl said she didn't eat animals either and I thought she might be a

> veggie so I said " oh you don't eat things like hamburgers? " She said " Yes,

> but those come from cows. " I said " Well a cow is an animal. " It turns out

> she and some others were under the impression that hamburg comes from cows

> in the same way milk does! I explained that meat was obtained from animals

> by killing them. I didn't get graphic at all but I didn't want them

> thinking you just extract meat and the animal goes on about it's business.

> Suddenly a whole discussion was sparked as it dawned on the class just what

> meat was. Some of them started to get upset and I said it was ok by me that

> people ate meat and I was just making a choice for myself. A boy asked if

> people sometimes ate dogs... they are an animal after all and we were

> talking about eating animals. I explained that in our country dogs are

> considered pets and we don't eat them (that I'm aware of), but that in other

> countries the people eat dogs the same way we eat cows or pigs or chickens.

> This was a really big deal as you can imagine and I just know some of them

> took it home to discuss. Uh oh, I'm in trouble. :-)

> Take care everyone,

> Kim

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> Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:02:31 -0600

> " Sharon Thompsen " <vegigran

> Re: Tortilla Treat

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> Good for you Kim. It is amazing how many people (not just the little ones)

> do not equate eating hamburgers, steaks, bacon and so on with animals. I

> have a dear lady friend that is in her 70's. She loves animals and will

> take in anyone's unwanted pets to keep them from going to the humane society

> and be put to sleep, but she eats meat all the time. I think people aren't

> so aware because they don't have to do the dirty work. They can just go to

> the grocery and buy all the nicely packaged items. It's a cultural thing

> that we grow up with.

> Sharon

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> kim bower <wi1622

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> Monday, November 06, 2000 7:35 PM

> Tortilla Treat

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>> Hi all,

>>

>> I got home and was hungry so I mashed up

>> two avacodos, to which I added some handy, dandy, thick and chunky salsa,

>> and filled a couple tortilla's. Instant Yummy:-)

>> On a side note I work in a school as an assistant in a first grade class

> and

>> got talking with kids about vegetarianism.

>> I had been doing Halloween songs with them during transition and wait

> times,

>> but now that's gone by I was trying to think fast and I came up with a

>> turkey song for Thanksgiving. By way of introduction I told the kids that

> I

>> thought the song was cute for the holiday, but I don't really eat animals.

>> One girl said she didn't eat animals either and I thought she might be a

>> veggie so I said " oh you don't eat things like hamburgers? " She said " Yes,

>> but those come from cows. " I said " Well a cow is an animal. " It turns

> out

>> she and some others were under the impression that hamburg comes from cows

>> in the same way milk does! I explained that meat was obtained from

> animals

>> by killing them. I didn't get graphic at all but I didn't want them

>> thinking you just extract meat and the animal goes on about it's business.

>> Suddenly a whole discussion was sparked as it dawned on the class just

> what

>> meat was. Some of them started to get upset and I said it was ok by me

> that

>> people ate meat and I was just making a choice for myself. A boy asked if

>> people sometimes ate dogs... they are an animal after all and we were

>> talking about eating animals. I explained that in our country dogs are

>> considered pets and we don't eat them (that I'm aware of), but that in

> other

>> countries the people eat dogs the same way we eat cows or pigs or

> chickens.

>> This was a really big deal as you can imagine and I just know some of them

>> took it home to discuss. Uh oh, I'm in trouble. :-)

>> Take care everyone,

>> Kim

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Hello Laura and welcome to the list...

I order stuff from Vegan store. They deliver promptly and charge different

rates depending on how much you spend.

Oh yes, Dairy = IBS/Crones

 

Rowan

 

 

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> Message: 1

> Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:02:52 -0700 (PDT)

> Patricia Sant <veggiehound

> Censoring and all that

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>>as for not discussing the past of meat eating,

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> seems to me to be

>

>>saying Oh you were raped as a child, don't talk

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> about it here.

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> With respect, John, that is a total non sequitur

> - and extremely provocative. Since it was my

> comment you were objecting to, I must say that

> you have severely misrepresented me in saying

> that.

>

> What I suggested, albeit lightly, and still

> suggest is that evoking memories of mama's

> wonderful 'veal pockets' etc. might be tempting

> fate, as it were, or undermining the resolve of

> some newbie vegetarians, especially those for

> whom doing without meat is a daily if not hourly

> struggle. (It can also sometimes be offensive to

> some longtime vegetarians.) We exist as a list,

> set apart from meat-eaters' food lists, so that

> we can not only exchange vegetarian recipes and

> food tips but also support each other in our

> vegetarian resolve.

 

I would suggest however, that not mentioning sentimental stories about

meat is not the only possibly way to support each other. Given, as you

say, that there are probably many people on the list who struggle to

remain vegetarian, there may be many who would rather hear that other

people have these feelings to, and to know that one can continue to be

resolved to be vegetarian despite them. And to know how other people

constructively deal with those urges (for example, making mock meat

meals, as was being mentioned). Shushing talk about those issues on the

list won't support those people. If I were in that situation I would

much rather hear that I am not alone, and hear suggestions and

supportive talk, rather than be led to think that perhaps I'm the only

one who feels this way, and that I need to stifle it, or that I'm not a

real vegetarian because of it. In my mind stifling talk about the

emotional aspects of becoming vegetarian is not supportive.

 

Ken Walden

 

 

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A yummy variation on this is to add dijon mustard....yum yum

 

 

There is 1 message in this issue.

 

Topics in this digest:

 

1. Green Bean and Potato Salad

" Dorith Carmeli "

 

 

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Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:37:42 -0000

" Dorith Carmeli "

Green Bean and Potato Salad

 

Since nothing is happening in this group, I thought I would send in

a recipe and maybe when one recipe crosses the bridge, more will

follow...

 

From Sunset Italian Cookbook.

 

Diced, cooked potatoes marinated in oil and vinegar combine with

green beans for this Genoese salad.

 

1 pound small, thin-skinned potatoes

¼ cup olive oil

1 tablespoon white wine vinegar

salt

pepper or seasoned pepper

½ pound small, slender green beans, ends and strings removed, and

cut into 1-inch lengths

2 tablespoons minced onion

capers (optional)

 

In a pan, cover potatoes with boiling, salted water and cook just

until tender to pierce, drain. When cool enough to touch, peel and

dice. Mix with oil, vinegar, salt and pepper to taste. Set aside to

cool.

In a pan, cover beans with boiling water and cook, uncovered, just

until barely tender. Drain and at once immerse in cold water to

cool, drain again. Mix beans with potatoes and onion and chill until

ready to serve. Garnish if desired, with capers. Makes 6 servings.

 

Greetings, Dorith

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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