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Great!!!

 

Hope your day is going well.

 

 

Irene Marie

 

 

--- Sant & Brown <santbrown wrote:

>

> >

> > What are those links in your message?

> >

> > Are they your homepage or something like that?

>

> Hi Irene Marie ;=)

>

> Well, they weren't so much in my message as in the

> all-purpose signature

> I use. The first is the homepage of a Dogs in the

> City list I run (all

> doglovers welcome to join); the second is my

> homepage (everyone welcome

> to peek).

>

> Best,

> Pat

>

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> his dealings with

> men. We can judge the heart of a man by his

> treatment of animals. " -

> Immanuel Kant

>

> * " I am in favour of animal rights as well as human

> rights. That is the

> way of a whole human being. " - Abraham Lincoln

>

> * " There are too many idiots in this world. And

> having said it, I have

> the burden of proving it. " - Franz Fanon

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>

 

 

 

 

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My sympathy and prayers.

 

K

 

Dale and Carol Wade <caroldalewade wrote:

Hi Friends,

 

I know this is 'off-topic'....but have just learned that my beloved

veterinarian was killed in a motorcycle accident. He took care of my animals

for 30 years. He truly was a compassionate vet. It is a loss for the people

who loved him...and the many animals he cared for.

 

Thank you for letting me post this....and if you are so inclined, kindly offer

up a little prayer.

 

Thanks again,

 

Carol

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Sorry, PT: This is way off topic, but I feel I must in conscience respond.

 

Maybe humans should or shouldn't eat me*t - there are differing points

of view on this as you know or we would all be vegetarian ;=) The fact

is that most humans on this list are vegetarian or inclined to be

vegetarian. I do not eat me*t.

 

Animals in the wild do eat what they can find and catch for health and

energy - and sometimes for fun ;=) Domestic dogs are, however, a long

way from the wild. And their human guardians, with the 'higher

intelligence' you credit us with (wow - I know some people . . . *LOL*

but let's not go there, eh?), can and do find ways to feed them an

excellent diet that does not include me*t. Veterinarians, for the most

part, obtain their nutritional information at college from lectures

given by Petfood companies. They are disinclined to recommend or approve

a vegetarian diet, in the main - and also perhaps because they don't

credit human guardians with that 'higher intelligence' and ability

necessary to their animals' health. This is not dissimilar to the

attitude of many human medical doctors towards feeding a vegetarian diet

to children. *We* think our vegetarian diet is healthy for kids; many

disagree. Likewise with dogs' diet.

 

Of course these are matters on which there will always be disagreement.

However, this *is* a vegetarian list and should be a safe and friendly

site for mentioning such things.

 

Again, I apologize for prolonging an off-topic discussion ;=)

 

Best,

 

Pat

 

> I feel that humans shouldn't eat meat because we are of

> higher intelligence and have the ability and physical capacity to subsist off

a

> meatless diet. Animals live by instinct, and in the wild eat what their body

> tells them to eat, which is what they need for health and energy.

 

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Immanuel Kant

 

* " I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the

way of a whole human being. " - Abraham Lincoln

 

* " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have

the burden of proving it. " - Franz Fanon

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[Guest guest]

Good to have you, Lynn. How's things in Oregon these days? I used to

live in Seattle. Sometimes i do miss the Pacific Northwest. Quite,

quite happy to be in the UK, though.

 

Anyroad, hope you have fun here.

 

k@

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> === member profile ===

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> members of the list it would be appreciated if you can complete and

> post a copy of the following profile.  Your responses to the questions

> may be as brief or full as you wish, this is only meant as an

> introduction, any subject can be raised for discussion at a later

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>

> Lynn

>

>

> 2/ How old are you (a rough idea will do)?

>

>

> 50s

>

>

> 3/ Do you know many vegans in real life?

>

> No

>

>

> 4/ How long have you been a vegan, and how long vegetarian before that?

>

> Just began

>

>

> 5/ Why did you become vegetarian/vegan (if you are neither it would be

> useful to explain why you joined this list)?

>

> Long story....time for a holistic approach to

> spiritual/physical/mental integration/healing...is about as concise as

> I can be

>

>

>

> === Questions about your area ===

>

> 6/ Whereabouts do you live?

>

> Not in the UK...but Oregon, USA...joined because I wasn't finding

> other vegan lists that were as all inclusive

>

>

> 7/ How good a place is it for vegans?

>

>

> Very rural community, very ecology minded and there are some vegans

> about....I just need to connect with them

>

>

> === Questions for fun ===

>

> 8/ Which is your favourite type of bean?

>

> kidney........yummm

>

>

> 9/ What is your favourite country, or region, to visit?

>

> UK

>

>

> 10/ What types of film do you like?

>

> Mysteries.....cozies primarily (no gory graphics/details

>

>

> 11/ What was the last meal you ate?

>

> fruit

>

>

> 12/ Are you a morning, evening or night person?

>

> yes :-)

>

>

>

> === Questions for dull administrative purposes ===

>

> 13/ How did you find out about this list?

>

> list search (there are 253 vegan lists todate :-)

>

>

>

> === Other comments ===

>

> 14/ If there is anything else you want to add to the above please feel

> free to do so.

>

> My adopting a vegan life style is a physiospiritual undertaking which

> has come out of my investigation of Essene Christians, however, I

> don't preach to anyone about anything and certainly not about

> something about which I am just learning/investigating.

>

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    Oregon is so beautiful  !!!!   I travelled thro’ it on a Greyhound

bus about 30 years ago . Always wanted to see it in more detail

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[kittyveg]

25 June 2003 15:09

 

Re:

 

Good

to have you, Lynn. How's things in Oregon these days? I used to live in

Seattle. Sometimes i do miss the Pacific Northwest. Quite, quite happy to be in

the UK, though.

 

Anyroad, hope you have fun here.

 

k@

 

 

 

 

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Hi all,

 

Everything is lovely (right now) in Oregon...we are thru our winter rain

and the sun is lovely esp. now that everything is blooming. As one local

gentleman said (a transplant from the UK) " I rather like Oregon

weather....it reminds me of home "

 

Lynn

 

At 07:08 AM 6/25/2003, you wrote:

>Good to have you, Lynn. How's things in Oregon these days? I used to

>live in Seattle. Sometimes i do miss the Pacific Northwest. Quite, quite

>happy to be in the UK, though.

>

>Anyroad, hope you have fun here.

>

>k@

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie,

Yes, Oregon is definitely GREEN (we have recently relocated from

California....it was a move we are glad we have made). The good

thing about Oregon is EVERYTHING grows here...and the one bad thing

about Oregon is EVERYTHING grows here. It's my first time trying

organic gardening .....I have so much to learn :-)

PS....can't remember who mentioned age but I'm 53. Interesting age

to start a new way of living...changing location, diet, organic

gardening, even my outlook (emotional/spiritual).

Inserting a photo taken out my kitchen window.....Amy (cat) and I

watching the deer...they have figured out we are not hunters and have

lots of fruit trees (the dirt mound is the beginning of my japanese style

garden with a small water feature). We are happy to have land and

privacy

lynn

 

Oregon is so beautiful !!!! I travelled thro’ it on a

Greyhound bus about 30 years ago . Always wanted to see it in more detail

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

K@

[kittyveg]

 

25 June 2003 15:09

 

Re:

 

 

 

Good to have you, Lynn. How's things

in Oregon these days? I used to live in Seattle. Sometimes i do miss the

Pacific Northwest. Quite, quite happy to be in the UK, though.

Anyroad, hope you have fun here.

k@

 

 

[Guest guest]

How BEAUTIFUL. That view is my

idea of heaven----to have wild animals trusting you and all those trees!!!

Enjoy it. I expect many of us are envious I certainly am

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purpleshirtredhat

[purpleshirtredhat]

26 June 2003 01:12

 

RE:

 

 

Hi Angie,

 

 

Yes, Oregon is definitely GREEN (we have recently relocated from

California....it was a move we are glad we have made). The good thing

about Oregon is EVERYTHING grows here...and the one bad thing about

Oregon is EVERYTHING grows here.

 

Inserting a photo taken out my kitchen window.....Amy (cat) and I watching the

deer...they have figured out we are not hunters and have lots of fruit trees

(the dirt mound is the beginning of my japanese style garden with a small water

feature). We are happy to have land and privacy

 

lynn

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original

Message-----

K@ [kittyveg]

 

25 June 2003 15:09

 

Re:

 

 

 

Good to have you, Lynn. How's things in Oregon these days? I used to live in

Seattle. Sometimes i do miss the Pacific Northwest. Quite, quite happy to be in

the UK, though.

 

Anyroad, hope you have fun here.

 

k@

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you Bridget, it's very warm here too,in the triple didgets!

We have a market here on Sat,one stand has organics which I enjoy.

Shirley

 

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Earthy Lady

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:26 PM

Re:

 

Welcome Shirley and other new members that I have missed. I'm enjoying the outdoors while the weather is warm and sunny. Long walks with my dog and shopping at fresh veggie markets

 

Take Care, Bridget....

 

If you truly love Nature, you will find beauty everywhere. - Vincent Van Gogh

 

 

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Hi there:)

 

I was recently invited to this and I am glad to be here, thank you:)

Though my Husband and I are really quite healthy eaters, the last few years have

had us leaning (more and more) towards a vegetarian or semi vegetarian diet..In

addition, although I am an Artist and Writer, I may also be considering pursuing

advanced study in Nutrition and similar alternative medicines/therapies. (I

share this to share a bit of info. about myself and my family and where we stand

in terms of the vegetarian diet etc . )

 

I am a bit curious as to how, however, I was invited to this group No

complaint, truly, I'm just not quite sure how/where my email was obtained or the

awareness of our interest in vegetarianism and the like. If any (particularly,

perhaps the group leader/moderator) could write us back to share these answers,

I'd find that greatly helpful., It would be interesting and helpful for me/us

to know how this was done, and I'd appreciate it, when you can reply on it.

 

In any case, thank you again for inviting me and my family to your helpful and

important forum.

 

We Wish You All Peace and Health &

 

God Bless You All,

 

P & Hsb.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Welcome Shirley and other new members that I have missed. I'm enjoying the outdoors while the weather is warm and sunny. Long walks with my dog and shopping at fresh veggie markets

 

Take Care, Bridget....

 

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just got the latest Dr hadwens mail order catalogue through and theres a new box of choccies that sound delic - has anyone tryed them or plannin on it , let me know if theyre nice and which u prefare out of the two different boxs,

 

thanx

 

lv saraVegan and loving it!!!!

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Sara

 

They do sound like a delicious selection. I haven't had any yet though.

 

Jo

 

just got the latest Dr hadwens mail order catalogue through and theres a new box of choccies that sound delic - has anyone tryed them or plannin on it , let me know if theyre nice and which u prefare out of the two different boxs,

 

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<< Mon Aug 25, 2003 1:23:53 pm Europe/London Subject: Take-over bidIt seems I don't have the time to look after this list anymore (another month has gone by without me reading any lists, everytime I catch up I fall bhind again) so is anyone interested in taking over as a moderator on a full time basis (more than one wanting to joint moderate is more the better)? As can be seen recently there is usually very little to do.Michael >>

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Don,

 

I did a quick search on google for linseed/flaxseed (was sure that has omega

3) and it does. I'll quote from the site at the following link:

 

http://www.springdale-group.com/speciality_crops/linseed.htm:

 

" Of increasing importance, is the production of linseed for use as a food

supplement (sometimes referred to as flaxseed in this context). The seed

oil, as indicated above, is a rich source of the omega-3 (n-3) fatty acid,

a-linolenic acid (around 60%). This is one of the two essential fatty acids

(EFAs) that cannot be made in the human body and therefore is an essential

component of the diet. The other EFA is linoleic acid (18:2, omega-6). Both

are the first members of the metabolic pathways involving polyunsaturated

fatty acids (PUFAs). "

 

Linseed can be taken as an oil, but I prefer to have it in it's naturally

occuring state. However, to absorb the nutrients you either have to crush

the seeds (or bite them individually ; - ) or you can get ones that are

already split. I feel it's best to have them freshly crushed. So you need a

blender or some other gadget that will grind the seeds.

 

Jak

-

Don Moore

 

Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:42 AM

 

 

 

Last night there was an interesting programme on the mind presented by Prof

Winston. He was stressing the importance of Omega 3 in our diet.

 

The example shown was a boy who was 2 years below in mental age standard in

reading, after a course in Omega 3 (fish oil) he was transformed into a

scholar.

 

Can anyone advise on a good veggy substitute

 

Regards Don M

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jak

 

You would think I would know better

-

" Jak " <jak.remec

 

Thursday, October 02, 2003 3:24 PM

Re:

 

 

> Hi Don,

>

> I did a quick search on google for linseed/flaxseed (was sure that has

omega

> 3) and it does. I'll quote from the site at the following link:

>

> http://www.springdale-group.com/speciality_crops/linseed.htm:

>

> " Of increasing importance, is the production of linseed for use as a food

> supplement (sometimes referred to as flaxseed in this context). The seed

> oil, as indicated above, is a rich source of the omega-3 (n-3) fatty acid,

> a-linolenic acid (around 60%). This is one of the two essential fatty

acids

> (EFAs) that cannot be made in the human body and therefore is an essential

> component of the diet. The other EFA is linoleic acid (18:2, omega-6).

Both

> are the first members of the metabolic pathways involving polyunsaturated

> fatty acids (PUFAs). "

>

> Linseed can be taken as an oil, but I prefer to have it in it's naturally

> occuring state. However, to absorb the nutrients you either have to crush

> the seeds (or bite them individually ; - ) or you can get ones that are

> already split. I feel it's best to have them freshly crushed. So you need

a

> blender or some other gadget that will grind the seeds.

>

> Jak

> -

> Don Moore

>

> Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:42 AM

>

>

>

> Last night there was an interesting programme on the mind presented by

Prof

> Winston. He was stressing the importance of Omega 3 in our diet.

>

> The example shown was a boy who was 2 years below in mental age standard

in

> reading, after a course in Omega 3 (fish oil) he was transformed into a

> scholar.

>

> Can anyone advise on a good veggy substitute

>

> Regards Don M

>

>

[Guest guest]

no probs Don

 

-

 

Don Moore

Thursday, October 02, 2003 6:58 PM

Re:

Thanks JakYou would think I would know better- "Jak" <jak.remecThursday, October 02, 2003 3:24 PMRe: > Hi Don,>> I did a quick search on google for linseed/flaxseed (was sure that hasomega> 3) and it does. I'll quote from the site at the following link:>> http://www.springdale-group.com/speciality_crops/linseed.htm:>> "Of increasing importance, is the production of linseed for use as a food> supplement (sometimes referred to as flaxseed in this context). The seed> oil, as indicated above, is a rich source of the omega-3 (n-3) fatty acid,> a-linolenic acid (around 60%). This is one of the two essential fattyacids> (EFAs) that cannot be made in the human body and therefore is an essential> component of the diet. The other EFA is linoleic acid (18:2, omega-6).Both> are the first members of the metabolic pathways involving polyunsaturated> fatty acids (PUFAs).">> Linseed can be taken as an oil, but I prefer to have it in it's naturally> occuring state. However, to absorb the nutrients you either have to crush> the seeds (or bite them individually ; - ) or you can get ones that are> already split. I feel it's best to have them freshly crushed. So you needa> blender or some other gadget that will grind the seeds.>> Jak> -> Don Moore> > Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:42 AM> >>> Last night there was an interesting programme on the mind presented byProf> Winston. He was stressing the importance of Omega 3 in our diet.>> The example shown was a boy who was 2 years below in mental age standardin> reading, after a course in Omega 3 (fish oil) he was transformed into a> scholar.>> Can anyone advise on a good veggy substitute>> Regards Don M>>

[Guest guest]

>Does anyone know if there is an alternative to Soya milk as I find

>the taste repulsive.

>

 

Try different brands, and different types. They vary enormously. To

me, some are repulsive, some are very good, and some are just OK. If

you're in the US I recommend Vitasoy Creamy Original (blue carton).

Some people prefer the vanilla flavoured version of this (purple

carton).

 

Regards,

 

Paul

 

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Thanks

-

" Paul Russell " <prussell

 

Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:41 PM

Re:

 

 

> >Does anyone know if there is an alternative to Soya milk as I find

> >the taste repulsive.

> >

>

> Try different brands, and different types. They vary enormously. To

> me, some are repulsive, some are very good, and some are just OK. If

> you're in the US I recommend Vitasoy Creamy Original (blue carton).

> Some people prefer the vanilla flavoured version of this (purple

> carton).

>

> Regards,

>

> Paul

>

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Rice milk.

 

-

Don Moore

Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:30 PM

 

 

Does anyone know if there is an alternative to Soya milk as I find the taste repulsive.

 

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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:30:05 +0100, " Don Moore " <don

wrote:

 

>Does anyone know if there is an alternative to Soya milk as I find the taste

repulsive.

 

Have you tried both sweetened and unsweetened? I think unsweetened is

vile, but sweetened is fine for me.

 

Chris W

[Guest guest]

rice milk

almond milk

hazelnut milk

oat milk

quinoa milk

Plamil White-Sun - filtered water, sunflower oil, pea protein and apple juice with added calcium and vitamins B12/D2/B2

 

i find the best on cereal are oat milk or rice milk ... (oat milk in porridge and rice milk in rice crispies?)

 

quinoa might take some getting used to ...

 

hazelnut and almond might be good in puddings or desserts...

 

rice milk is good to drink from the carton .... you can get a three pack of small cartons from most health food stores and many Sainsbury's ...

 

 

 

Don Moore [don]

Does anyone know if there is an alternative to Soya milk as I find the taste repulsive.

 

Rgds Don Moore

 

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[Guest guest]

>

> Yes theTerra Chips are low in calories etc......

>

> I'm going to try to make some similar ones with my own variation of spices and

herbs.

 

Let me know how they turn out? I don't even know what Terra Chips are ;=(

 

All's well here - the rain has stopped and the temp has risen to around

13 degrees C.

 

Best,

Pat

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I would like to have all kinds of recipes. Especially pies, cakes, and american main dishes if you have any. Thanks!

 

Oh, I have tried to make cookies, but they seem to come out more like cake for some reason. Can anyone tell me what I could do to make them more crunchy. Also I want to try to make a pumpkin pie this month. I hope that goes well.

 

How would I make vegan cream of mushroom soup to use in my green bean casserole?

[Guest guest]

YES! Good question...does anyone know??

 

 

> How would I make vegan cream of mushroom soup to use in my green bean

> casserole?