Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I'd like to see any recipes Susan might send from the Philippines (her post is copied in below), and to my mind a dish containing cayenne sure counts as spicy. Something else that I'm hoping to see more of: recipes for tasty vegan dishes that are prepared without frying or sautéing. The reason is that fairly recent research indicates that whenever you cook at high heat you damage fats, carbohydrates, and proteins--so when you eat the prepared dish you're putting less than optimal nutrition into your body and thus setting yourself up for poorer health as you age. Raw foods aren't heat-damaged at all, foods that have been boiled or steamed (212 degrees F) are damaged somewhat, foods that have been baked have encountered much higher temperatures and are badly damaged, and frying causes the most damage. For example, governments regulate the amount of acrylamide in drinking water because acrylamide is carcinogenic, but surprising research published a year or two ago shows that French fries, chips, and even breadcrust contain a great deal of acrylamide, many times more than a person would get from drinking water. Breadcrust is cooked at oven temperature--maybe 350 degrees F--while the interior of a loaf of bread tends to be steamed and thus doesn't encounter heat as high. High temperature also creates warped proteins called AGEs (Advanced Glycation Endproducts), which also aren't good things to be putting into a human body. Unfortunately, the wonderful tastes of Indian food, which I always loved, depend in very large part on enhancing the flavor of spices by sautéing them in hot oil. And I see that lots of the recipes posted here use that technique. Maybe someday we'll learn cooking techniques that maximize seasonings' flavors without rendering the food less healthful. (Maybe, for example, there'd be a way to extract flavor by whirring spices at high speed?) Meanwhile, often I just add cayenne, the way Susan says her daughter does in the Philippines. By the way, according to /The Green Pharmacy/ by David Duke, Ph.D., cayenne has a number of special health *benefits.* I'm taking time out from moving house to write this, and my copy of Duke's book is at my new place, 175 miles away, while I'm here taking care of things at the old place. But if anyone is interested in hearing the specific benefits of cayenne, please let me know either on-list or off, and I'll look up the information and send it in a future post. Lynn - Susan Baylon <sansunick2004 Re: spice butternut squash soup Jan 9, 2006 5:25 AM i just felt ashame i cant contribute but surely am collecting the recpes you are sewnding,probably i can get from my vagan daughters recipes from the philippines that might be of help but surely not spicy ,all i know is they just add cayenne to mahe the recipe hot Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Hi there Lynn - nice to have you write in at long last. Yes, yes, I know - Lynn is one of our first members from way back in mid-2004 :-) All the more welcome for that! Yup, cayenne is hot and spicy all right! I too would like to have some of Susan's recipes here. You say: > Something else that I'm hoping to see more of: recipes for tasty vegan > dishes that are prepared without frying or sautéing. Many of our dishes are prepared, by those wanting to avoid frying or sauteing, by using a little vegetable stock in lieu of oil to soften onion, etc., prior to adding the rest of the ingredients. For a fat-free recipe list, however, you should go to my vegetarianslimming (which has both vegetarian and vegan low-fat recipes) or to Susan V's . I recommend both. Neither is a hot and spicy recipe list per se, although spicy recipes do occur. That is not to tell you you don't belong here, of course - just to suggest a couple of other options for you in addition to this list. > The reason is that fairly recent research indicates that . . . I have heard of that research. > Unfortunately, the wonderful tastes of Indian food, which I always loved, > depend in very large part on enhancing the flavor of spices by sautéing > them in hot oil. And I see that lots of the recipes posted here use that > technique. Yes, it's traditional. Of course. But as I say, you can choose to cook any of the recipes in your own way if you are overly concerned about the health aspects of high temperatures. About the cayenne - other spices are also most beneficial, eg. cinnamon - and all can be added, as you say, even to meals prepared in a non-traditional manner. I do not, however, feel that Indian food is unhealthy once the butter ghee has been replaced by vegetable oil. Everything in moderatiion, I always say :-) Thanks for writing in! Let's chat again onlist soon. Best love, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Thank you so much for giving me what you wanted,me along with my two daughters who are both health lecturers are very much inclined in healty foods and we really preferred eating raw or if not halfly cooked vegetables which are mostly organics.I am a post stroke person,who was under medical treatment for 12 years when i had mild stroke and had my right foot and hand paralize,with the help of my children applying the alternative medicine and emphasized vagan food in a mater of three month i started to feel alright,loosing weitht from 68 kgs to 53 kgs,cholesterol level totally went normal,and blood pressure was wel controlled and that was an incident that happened almost three years ago.Also i observed that cancer patients who deals on healthy food especially on raw organic food gets great chance in recovery and i dnt see them cry in pain,thats why am thankful when i was invited to join this group.first to know more and also to share.Just give me certain time to gather the recipes and am willing to share with anyone who is interested.I would really incourage my daughters to join and share their knowledge,believe me am a living witness of recovery from just healthy food. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Yes thank you all for making interest in our Philippine vegan dishes and we really emphasize fat free dishes and raw or halfly cooked organic food,and we just add virgin olive oil on our food before serving,Just give me time because I dnt live with them and they are very busy people being invited to give lectures on placies like universities,associations and communities wherein leaders are interested on healthy lifestyle.We use cayenne,ginger,garlic,union to make our food spicy.Am thankful getting to know more on vegan life all over the world. Love, Susan Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Hello there, Susan! >. . . me along with my two daughters who are both health lecturers are very much inclined in healty foods and we really preferred eating raw or if not halfly cooked vegetables which are mostly organics. Have you checked out our Salads etc. in the Files? We have wonderful recipes for raw vegetables there. You might also have a quick look in the OT section of the Files too. There have been (and perhaps still are) rawfoodists on this list, and we have some rawfood recipes also. Also, as I might have mentioned, many 'stir-fries' can be done by steaming the vegetables lightly (leaving them with lots of 'crunch') rather than using oil, and then the rest of the recipe can be followed. I appreciate what you are saying about the health benefits of a vegan diet. We have many vegans on this list as well as vegetarians, and many members are vegetarian/vegan for health reasons (about half, I would estimate, on average). On the list, as it happens, we have agreed to concentrate on cooking and recipes. >Just give me certain time to gather the recipes and am willing to share with anyone who is interested. Please feel free to post your recipes to the entire group - we all love spicy hot food or we wouldn't be here LOL and I imagine we all incorporaate some raw foods in some form or other into our diets. Just remember that we ask that *all* recipes are ones which have been tested/cooked by the member who posts them - 'tried and true' recipes. >I would really incourage my daughters to join and share their knowledge. We'd welcome your daughters too of course! If you'd like me to send them an invitation, just send me their email addresses privately to my own non-list address: veggiehound and I'd be happy to do so. > . . . believe me am a living witness of recovery from just healthy food. That's wonderful. But you're preaching to the choir here - we all believe in healthy food. It's just that we might differ a little from one another or from you in what we each consider to be 'healthy' and necessary for health. No problem there! Thanks for writing in. Best love, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Thanks Pat,certainly ill let them know that they are welcme to join the group,and also thanks for the recipes that are posted i wsould like to try them too. Love, Susan Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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