healthy IS expensive

[Guest guest]

YOu know Erin for the last month I have been saving

receipts and I can't give an exact average. One week

it's $30 and the next it might be $50. I shop at

various stores, pick up items on sale and use those

throughout the week. I spend very little on food. I

don't buy dairy and if I do it might be eggs for

baking or a little parmesan and that lasts for weeks.

Most of the time I just stop off during the week for

fruits and veggies, if I buy broccoli I might steam

the florets for tonights dinner and the stalks I will

grate for patties or to put in a stir fry the next

day. All my beans, grains and legumes are bulk.

LIke Meg and Deanna the cost is so little.

If I start adding frozen veggie burgers it goes up a

little more but for the most part I make all my own

patties. I doubt I ever spend over $50 a week and

there plenty of food when Mo(nrphew) and his buddies

pop in too.

Donna

 

 

>

> Erin wrote:

 

> > No responses to my typical $100/week shopping

> list,

> > but look here! Scientific " proof " of my

> contention

> > that healthy food is more expensive. LOL.

> >

> > http://healthycosts.notlong.com

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Funny thing is I have a whole-house water filtration

and softener system to cleanse my well-water of iron,

arsenic(!), etc..

 

I guess I just don't trust enough, LOL. But, the $

was well spent, even if I don't drink it, as I still

wash with it and clean dishes with it, not to mention

the staining it used to cause.

 

 

-Eri

 

 

, Beth Renzetti

<elmothree2000 wrote:

>

> Perhaps you could buy a Brita filter or similar for your water

instead of purchasing spring water?

> Beth

[Guest guest]

Now *I'm* confused, lol. I was, of course, talking about

vegetarian eating. My point was I don't buy much in the

way of processed foods (and certainly no fake soy meats),

and yet, it still costs a lot. I think this is due to the

high price of produce (and I don't necessarily get organic

either). This week was almost entirely fruits and veggies,

no cereals, etc., and it still cost $100. Always does.

 

If I wanted to eat a less varied diet, yes, I agree, I

probably could reduce cost dramatically. So, I'm not

complaining and don't intend to change my habits.

 

I also thought it interesting though that a scientific

study found the same (i.e., healthy food is more expensive).

This doesn't come as a shock to me, considering the $1 mac

n' cheese, canned veggies, 2 for 1 Oreo's and other cheap

junk out there.

 

 

-Erin

p.s. - I do buy quite a bit of bulk already, but I had

always purchased my lentils and peas in the little bags

in the health food section of the grocery store. Well,

inspired by this discussion, I recently bought a 25 lb

bag of yellow split peas online.

 

 

, " veggiehound "

<veggiehound wrote:

>

> > Well, I disagree (a little); it's not JUST the prepared foods

> > that cost a lot. I find produce to be quite expensive,. . .

>

> Oh yes. I guess I was reading something different into your

word 'healthy' - a blind spot of

> mine. I thought you were meaning 'vegetarian' or 'vegan' - and I

don't think that it costs

> more to be a vegetarian or vegan (provided one keeps prepared

things to a dull roar), but

> rather less. After all, one would / should eat lots of fresh

produce as an omnivore, the

> animal flesh part of any meal being only a small amount of what's

on the plate and THAT

> would be replaced in a vegetarian meal by tofu or seitan or beans

or dairy/eggs - cheaper

> than dead flesh.

>

> But if you mean 'healthy' as meaning lots of fruits and vegetables

compared to the very

> very few eaten by a majority of the population who follow the SAD

way, then yes, I

> suppose fresh produce costs more than potatoes and white bread,

etc.

>

> So I guess we're not arguing at all LOL Just agreeing about the

same thing in different

> ways? I hope.

>

> Best, Pat

>

[Guest guest]

> My point was I don't buy much in the

> way of processed foods (and certainly no fake soy meats),

> and yet, it still costs a lot.

 

I think we're both on the same page here, and I really really don't want to

argue with

anyone about this - really! I was simply meaning that if you bought all that

lovely produce

for a (gasp, horror!) omnivore who wants to be healthy, then he or she would

likely add a

small amount of dead flesh to the plateful of wonderful vegetables. That's what

any

healthy eater is supposed to do. Granted, as vegetarians we probably don't think

the me*t

part of the omnivore diet is healthy, but . . .

 

Now take that same 'omnivore' plate of good nutritious veggies plus some me*t

and, as a

good little veggieperson, subtract the me*t (thank goodness! - the non-humans

thank

you!), and instead of the me*t have tofu or beans or some such. Okay? With me?

 

Then wouldn't you find that the cost of the tofu, etc., is much less costly than

the me*t? I

would.

 

That's all I meant :-)

 

Agreed, packaged mac n cheese etc is cheap and nasty - especially cheap. And

cheaper

than me*t. But it isn't really in the same league with a healthy diet.

 

You have a wonderful variety of produce on your shopping list - sounds as if we

shop at

the same place, although I skip the asparagus out of season.

 

Best love, Pat

[Guest guest]

, " veggiehound "

<veggiehound wrote:

>

> > My point was I don't buy much in the

> > way of processed foods (and certainly no fake soy meats),

> > and yet, it still costs a lot.

>

> I think we're both on the same page here, and I really really

don't want to argue with

> anyone about this - really!

 

Who's arguing?

 

> I was simply meaning that if you bought all that lovely produce

> for a (gasp, horror!) omnivore who wants to be healthy, then he or

she would likely add a

> small amount of dead flesh to the plateful of wonderful

vegetables. That's what any

> healthy eater is supposed to do. Granted, as vegetarians we

probably don't think the me*t

> part of the omnivore diet is healthy, but . . .

>

> Now take that same 'omnivore' plate of good nutritious veggies

plus some me*t and, as a

> good little veggieperson, subtract the me*t (thank goodness! - the

non-humans thank

> you!), and instead of the me*t have tofu or beans or some such.

Okay? With me?

 

Ah, yes, I get it.

 

> Then wouldn't you find that the cost of the tofu, etc., is much

less costly than the me*t? I

> would.

 

To be honest, I wouldn't really know as I never shopped for me*t

myself, having gone veg as soon as I left the fold. Well, for a

while in college I was not yet vegetarian, but then it was fast

food and pizza that sustained one outside the dining halls.

 

> That's all I meant :-)

>

> Agreed, packaged mac n cheese etc is cheap and nasty - especially

cheap. And cheaper

> than me*t. But it isn't really in the same league with a healthy

diet.

 

My point exactly, that unhealthy can be exceedingly inexpensive,

probably more so than healthy. As you say above, I think we are

actually in agreement here. LOL.

 

> You have a wonderful variety of produce on your shopping list -

sounds as if we shop at

> the same place, although I skip the asparagus out of season.

 

Thank you.

 

> Best love, Pat

 

Right back at ya!

-Erin

[Guest guest]

I said:

> > Then wouldn't you find that the cost of the tofu, etc., is much

> less costly than the me*t? I

> > would.

 

And you replied:

> To be honest, I wouldn't really know as I never shopped for me*t

> myself . . .

 

Whoops sorry - silly me LOL I see the prices in the supermarkets, meat markets,

as I pass

by (I tried averting my eyes from dead animals and those shopping for them, but

I kept

stumbling into little old grandmothers and flattening the contents of twin

strollers, etc.,

stepping on tiny creatures and annoying big ones, so when they stop I tend to do

so too.)

You truly DON " T want to know the price of carcases - and all so unnecessary too

with all

that lovely produce out there, eh? Organic costs a bomb, though, doesn't it! Not

subsidized in the same way.

 

Hey, though, lucky you never to have had to do the me*t shopping abomination. I

forget

that not everyone came as a late convert to vegetarianism (I was around 40- 42

;-( give or

take a bit). I'm outclassed!

 

Best love, Pat