OT: Sure-Jell answer from Kraft

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>. . .my question was if anyone had jam or jelly

> recipes. I didn't expect that they'd be filed in the recipe section

> if they weren't suitable. However, I'm now thinking that any

> ingredient in a recipe that might conceivably be not vegetarian

> cannot be posted to this list . . .

 

Well, there's been no criticism of anyone posting anything to the list recently

for not being

vegetarian - those who infer criticism from a timely warning that something is

NOT

vegetarian are mistaken. There was simply an announcement that certain products

were

not, after investigation, to be trusted as vegetarian and therefore would not be

filed.

 

>such as ketchup, jams, jellies,

> cheeses, tomato sauce, yeast and yogurt products, etc. All could

> conceivably have animal products in them depending on the brand and

> ingredients.

 

That's true. We assume *vegetarian* versions of these in recipes. The case of

specifying a

certain *brand* however is a little different. In making jams and jellies one

must of course

specify brand (because a recipe that works for one brand may not work for a

substitute).

The brands named were very suspect (according to the manufacturer) and therefore

the

list was informed. Some brands of yoghurt do indeed contain gelatin, many cheese

contain

rennet, etc. etc. But unless the brand is specified, we assume the *vegetarian*

version ;-)

 

> Citric acid and lactic acid, among other things, are in

> many foods these days.

 

True enough.

 

> Are we to assume that we may not list an

> ingredient that has one of these in it unless we have verified that

> it always comes from vegetarian sources or specify which brand to

> buy?

 

No. See above. The problem was that we discovered that the brands specified was

suspect.

 

>If so, there needs to be a lot of weeding and specifying of

> ingredients in the recipes on file because a lot of the recipe

> ingredients listed in the file could contain nonvegetarian additives.

 

Again, we assume vegetarians use *vegetarian* versions of these products. If a

brand were

specified, then we would be able to inquire and with luck (and not a little

inconvenience)

warn members if they were not vegetarian.

 

> I guess I'm a little confused, Pat. All I asked for was a recipe for

> jelly or jam. Remember, this was the complete post I made that

> started this: Hot Pepper Jelly: " Anybody made it? I found one on

> the Sure-Jell site, but I'd love to have one that one of you has

> tried. "

 

Sorry, hon, but this really isn't about *you* - it was about Sure-Jell. Quite a

different thing.

 

> I was not threatening to publish the Sure-Jell recipe to the

> list or demand that Maida put it in the files.

 

I repeat, it wasn't about that, as I think you must realize on reflection. As

for the rest of

your post, your suggestions for the reorganization of the files and the running

of the list

will be answered off list, as is only proper.

 

Thanks for writing in. Sometimes threads take off in slightly different

directions than

the original poster thought they might :-) That is to be expected. And I wish I

could help

you with the jams and jellies (and I don't conrfuse 'jelly' with the brandname

'Jello'), but I

really do stay away from them for other reasons than those under discussion

here. Others

might be able to help. It's a tad off topic for this list, of course, but I'm

sure no one would

mind if a nice recipe were posted - we all like nice recipes that others

recommend. So

much better than just grabbing one off the web, as you said in your original

post.

 

Best, Pat