Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Here are some food pyramids (different for vegetarians and vegans) that you can bookmark or print out and stick on your refrigerator. There are others, but these have the virtue of being pretty LOL VEGETARIAN FOOD PYRAMID: <a href= " http://www.dietobio.com/dossiers/en/food_guide/pyramid.html " >http:// www.dietobio.com/dossiers/en/food_guide/pyramid.html</a> VEGAN FOOD PYRAMIDS: <a href= " http://www.nutrispeak.com/vegan_food_guide1.htm " >http:// www.nutrispeak.com/vegan_food_guide1.htm</a> and HERE is a good (vegan) link to bookmark since you can click into each section of the pyramid to get details. I like this one. <a href= " http://vegan.uchicago.edu/nutrition/06.html " >http://vegan.uchicago.edu/ nutrition/06.html</a> I hope this helps anyone relatively new to vegetarianism in all its forms - lacto-ovo vegetarianism (eggs and dairy), ovo-vegetarianism (eggs, no dairy), lacto-vegetarianism (dairy, no eggs), and veganism (no eggs, dairy or honey). In all cases, of course, no dead animals are consumed (including those that swim or those that hang out near those that do) and no dead animal products. Best, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 In regards to the uchicago link, they open with " VEGETARIANS are those who do not eat the flesh of animals. There are several different kinds of vegetarians: " and conclude with " There are also people called “semi-vegetarians” who consume fish and sometimes even chicken. They tend to do so for health reasons, since red meat is particularly high in saturated fat and cholesterol. " I'm curious...How can one be considered a semi-vegetarian? Either one is or isn't. Why would eating the flesh of chicken and fish be considered any less humane than eating that of beef or pork for whatever reason? With that said, I guess any one that eats any kind of meat is considered a semi-vegetarian or a semi-meat eater which means they are not vegetarians. http://vegan.uchicago.edu/whyvegan/1.html Any other views on this? Pat <drpatsant wrote: Here are some food pyramids (different for vegetarians and vegans) that you can bookmark or print out and stick on your refrigerator. There are others, but these have the virtue of being pretty LOL VEGETARIAN FOOD PYRAMID: <a href= " http://www.dietobio.com/dossiers/en/food_guide/pyramid.html " >http:// www.dietobio.com/dossiers/en/food_guide/pyramid.html</a> VEGAN FOOD PYRAMIDS: <a href= " http://www.nutrispeak.com/vegan_food_guide1.htm " >http:// www.nutrispeak.com/vegan_food_guide1.htm</a> and HERE is a good (vegan) link to bookmark since you can click into each section of the pyramid to get details. I like this one. <a href= " http://vegan.uchicago.edu/nutrition/06.html " >http://vegan.uchicago.edu/ nutrition/06.html</a> I hope this helps anyone relatively new to vegetarianism in all its forms - lacto-ovo vegetarianism (eggs and dairy), ovo-vegetarianism (eggs, no dairy), lacto-vegetarianism (dairy, no eggs), and veganism (no eggs, dairy or honey). In all cases, of course, no dead animals are consumed (including those that swim or those that hang out near those that do) and no dead animal products. Best, Pat Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Yeah, I hear that, " I'm a vegetarian except I still eat chicken. " (or fish, usually) I don't consider them vegetarians but I don't get into it with them either. Semi-vegetarians mayyyybe could be someone like me who isn't a vegetarian but makes/eats more vegetarian than non? I personally just consider that NON-vegetarian. But maybe that's who is being referred to. Beth Jon <newtoogod wrote: In regards to the uchicago link, they open with " VEGETARIANS are those who do not eat the flesh of animals. There are several different kinds of vegetarians: " and conclude with " There are also people called “semi-vegetarians” who consume fish and sometimes even chicken. They tend to do so for health reasons, since red meat is particularly high in saturated fat and cholesterol. " I'm curious...How can one be considered a semi-vegetarian? Either one is or isn't. Why would eating the flesh of chicken and fish be considered any less humane than eating that of beef or pork for whatever reason? With that said, I guess any one that eats any kind of meat is considered a semi-vegetarian or a semi-meat eater which means they are not vegetarians. http://vegan.uchicago.edu/whyvegan/1.html Any other views on this? Pat <drpatsant wrote: Here are some food pyramids (different for vegetarians and vegans) that you can bookmark or print out and stick on your refrigerator. There are others, but these have the virtue of being pretty LOL VEGETARIAN FOOD PYRAMID: <a href= " http://www.dietobio.com/dossiers/en/food_guide/pyramid.html " >http:// www.dietobio.com/dossiers/en/food_guide/pyramid.html</a> VEGAN FOOD PYRAMIDS: <a href= " http://www.nutrispeak.com/vegan_food_guide1.htm " >http:// www.nutrispeak.com/vegan_food_guide1.htm</a> and HERE is a good (vegan) link to bookmark since you can click into each section of the pyramid to get details. I like this one. <a href= " http://vegan.uchicago.edu/nutrition/06.html " >http://vegan.uchicago.edu/ nutrition/06.html</a> I hope this helps anyone relatively new to vegetarianism in all its forms - lacto-ovo vegetarianism (eggs and dairy), ovo-vegetarianism (eggs, no dairy), lacto-vegetarianism (dairy, no eggs), and veganism (no eggs, dairy or honey). In all cases, of course, no dead animals are consumed (including those that swim or those that hang out near those that do) and no dead animal products. Best, Pat Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 >Why would eating the flesh of chicken and fish be considered any less humane than eating that of beef or pork for whatever reason? I think your answer is contained in your own post You quote the page as saying that these 'Semi-Vegetarians' abstain from red meat for _health_ purposes. Clearly, according to that statement, such semi-vegetarians are not primarily concerned with the humane reasons for cutting back on the consumption of me*t. Some others, however, could be making the transition towards vegetarianism. (It's not quite like being semi-pregnant or 'almost' a virgin but- whoops - don't want to open up that topic here LOL) Btw, we have a number of members here who might well consider themselves to be semi- vegetarians out there in the Real World. We do prefer they don't call themselves that to others, because it confuses people a lot about what a vegetarian is. But it seems to me, the more the years ramble along, that the world is already confused about vegetarianism and is unlikely to be made more so because those few people like to ally themselves with the rest of us in some way Just mho. Love, Pat , Jon <newtoogod wrote: > > In regards to the uchicago link, they open with " VEGETARIANS are those who do not eat the flesh of animals. There are several different kinds of vegetarians: " > > and conclude with " There are also people called " semi-vegetarians " who consume fish and sometimes even chicken. They tend to do so for health reasons, since red meat is particularly high in saturated fat and cholesterol. " > > I'm curious...How can one be considered a semi-vegetarian? Either one is or isn't. Why would eating the flesh of chicken and fish be considered any less humane than eating that of beef or pork for whatever reason? With that said, I guess any one that eats any kind of meat is considered a semi-vegetarian or a semi-meat eater which means they are not vegetarians. > > http://vegan.uchicago.edu/whyvegan/1.html > > Any other views on this? > > > Pat <drpatsant wrote: > Here are some food pyramids (different for vegetarians and vegans) > that you can bookmark or print out and stick on your refrigerator. > There are others, but these have the virtue of being pretty LOL > > VEGETARIAN FOOD PYRAMID: > <a href= " http://www.dietobio.com/dossiers/en/food_guide/pyramid.html " >http:// > www.dietobio.com/dossiers/en/food_guide/pyramid.html</a> > > VEGAN FOOD PYRAMIDS: > <a href= " http://www.nutrispeak.com/vegan_food_guide1.htm " >http:// > www.nutrispeak.com/vegan_food_guide1.htm</a> > > and HERE is a good (vegan) link to bookmark since you can click into each > section of the pyramid to get details. I like this one. > <a href= " http://vegan.uchicago.edu/nutrition/06.html " >http://vegan.uchicago.edu/ > nutrition/06.html</a> > > I hope this helps anyone relatively new to vegetarianism in all its forms - > lacto-ovo vegetarianism (eggs and dairy), ovo-vegetarianism (eggs, no dairy), > lacto-vegetarianism (dairy, no eggs), and veganism (no eggs, dairy or honey). > In all cases, of course, no dead animals are consumed (including those that > swim or those that hang out near those that do) and no dead animal products. > > Best, Pat > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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