Guest guest Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 one of the clerks at Whole Foods here told me that soy products can make people feel lethargic. Anyone know anything about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 - The only thing I can think of is if you were allergic to soy it could have a neg. effect on you. There is no warning besides allergy information -- In , " Pineapple " <cluttjohann wrote: > > one of the clerks at Whole Foods here told me that soy products can > make people feel lethargic. Anyone know anything about that? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 On 12/31/07, Pineapple <cluttjohann wrote: > > one of the clerks at Whole Foods here told me that soy products can > make people feel lethargic. Anyone know anything about that? There was one study done many years ago in Japan that found that soy consumption leads to goiters (thyroid problems) which would include lethargy as one of the symptoms. To the best of my knowledge, this study has not been repeated but also there have not been a higher incidence of goiters reported from those regions of Japan where people consume more soy (soy consumption rates vary from region to region in Japan, so if someone tries to tell you either that the Japanese consume a lot of soy or a small amount of soy, they are not giving yout he full picture.) There is an ongoing " battle " between those who say that soy (or, in some cases those who say that unfermented soy) is bad for you and those who say it is good or neutral for you. Some have claimed that the Dairy Council has a hand in the bad press about soy, but I have not seen any evidence that leads me to believe the claims (though I don't see any evidence yet to dismiss them, either.) Others say that the good press about soy is a capitalist conspiracy. Again, no one has shown me the evidence. Anecdotally, I have met (online) one individual who attributes a serious hormonal imbalance to her years of eating soy with all three meals every day. Personally, I don't believe soy is any more harmful than any other food when eaten as part of a balanced, reasonable diet. I didn't grow up eating soy because my mother is allergic to it, so I don't have strong emotions one way or the other about the issue and if I believed it were harmful, I'd quit eating it. There are many articles online - both colloquial and scholarly - about the controversy over soy. There are also several books - with varying amounts of inflammatory rhetoric and conspiracy talk - about the soy controversy. Do a little reading and figure out whether you feel okay about soy or not. A large number of anti-soy people are okay with fermented soy, so if you decide to go that route, just stick with extra-firm tofu made with nigari, tempeh, miso, natto, etc. and avoid edamame, soy cheese, soy burgers, etc. Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 You are very knowledgeable The only other thing I heard was that we should limit the amount of soy boys take in. You had a great point .Soy is in so many of our everyday products regardless if you are veg , and widely used everyday in other countries with no reports of real problems (unless i am just not up on the news) Sparrow R Jones <sparrowrose wrote: On 12/31/07, Pineapple <cluttjohann wrote: > > one of the clerks at Whole Foods here told me that soy products can > make people feel lethargic. Anyone know anything about that? There was one study done many years ago in Japan that found that soy consumption leads to goiters (thyroid problems) which would include lethargy as one of the symptoms. To the best of my knowledge, this study has not been repeated but also there have not been a higher incidence of goiters reported from those regions of Japan where people consume more soy (soy consumption rates vary from region to region in Japan, so if someone tries to tell you either that the Japanese consume a lot of soy or a small amount of soy, they are not giving yout he full picture.) There is an ongoing " battle " between those who say that soy (or, in some cases those who say that unfermented soy) is bad for you and those who say it is good or neutral for you. Some have claimed that the Dairy Council has a hand in the bad press about soy, but I have not seen any evidence that leads me to believe the claims (though I don't see any evidence yet to dismiss them, either.) Others say that the good press about soy is a capitalist conspiracy. Again, no one has shown me the evidence. Anecdotally, I have met (online) one individual who attributes a serious hormonal imbalance to her years of eating soy with all three meals every day. Personally, I don't believe soy is any more harmful than any other food when eaten as part of a balanced, reasonable diet. I didn't grow up eating soy because my mother is allergic to it, so I don't have strong emotions one way or the other about the issue and if I believed it were harmful, I'd quit eating it. There are many articles online - both colloquial and scholarly - about the controversy over soy. There are also several books - with varying amounts of inflammatory rhetoric and conspiracy talk - about the soy controversy. Do a little reading and figure out whether you feel okay about soy or not. A large number of anti-soy people are okay with fermented soy, so if you decide to go that route, just stick with extra-firm tofu made with nigari, tempeh, miso, natto, etc. and avoid edamame, soy cheese, soy burgers, etc. Sparrow Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 On 12/31/07, Robin Chaloune <rchaloune wrote: > > You are very knowledgeable Thanks. *blush* > The only other thing I heard was that we should limit the amount > of soy boys take in. Probably because of the phytoestrogen issue. I remember reading that there are other everyday foods that are higher in phytoestrogens than soy, but I can't remember offhand what they are and would have to look them up. > You had a great point .Soy is in so many of our everyday products > regardless if you are veg , and widely used everyday in other countries > with no reports of real problems (unless i am just not up on the news) I have seen more news reports of problems with plastics than with soy. Many plastics have a component that can mimic estrogen in the body and plastic pollutants are causing things like hermaphrodite animals of species that do not normally exhibit hermaphroditism (for example, some amphibians have been observed naturally changing gender if the population is too imbalanced so seeing hermaphroditism in frogs and lizards is inconclusive but seeing a high rate of it in sea birds is alarming.) It also seems that plastics are getting more blame for things like an increased rate of genital deformities (such as hypospadias) in male babies. In the mainstream press, I mainly see plastics blamed for this, not soy foods. (Not to stray too far into the political, but if you want to read something really scary about plastic, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Pacific_Gyre I think anyone who cares about things like healthy food and pollution ought to know about the floating trash heap in the middle of the ocean and how it's affecting our environment.) And, yes, soy is in almost everything these days! For example, I have seen soy additives in beef burritos (I am an obsessive reader and if there is a food label on the table, I will probably end up looking at the ingredients and nutrition facts out of curiosity.) There is soy in cakes, cookies, crackers -- just about anything processed is likely to have soy in it so the average person gets a LOT of soy in their diet, even if they don't actually eat " soy foods " like tofu or soy burgers. Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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