Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 > In addition to thinking about raw breads, > pizzas, cookies and the > like, something to think about with dehydrators > is: do you have access > to a farmer's market or farm program through > which you can get > ridiculous amounts of produce in season for > ridiculously low prices? . . . . Not exactly - it's good at the market in the late summer and fall, and the prices are a little less than the other places. For large quantities, one can do quite well - although goodness knows how long it'd all take to dehydrate LOL I'm more interested in it for the things you mention - raw breads, pizzas, cookies, etc. We could probably use some of the recipes that you have learned from your Mormon neighbours and have adapted to veg*n! I can't imagine planning for a disaster that would require stocking up supplies of food enough for two years, but perhaps your neighbours know something I don't or are following an old tradition. Whichever way it is, the techniques they follow for cooking and preserving would be invaluable! And it would be very generous indeed if they would be kind enough to share them with you and, through you, with us OK, call me an opportunist! LOL Love and hugs, Pat ---- Vegetarian Spice: http://beanvegan.blogspot.com Vegan World Cuisine: http://www.care2.com/c2cvegworld Vegetarian Slimming: vegetarianslimming Vegetarians In Canada: vegetariansincanada " Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and are called medical research. " (George Bernard Shaw) ______________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 On 1/10/08, Pat <drpatsant wrote: > > We could probably use some of the recipes that > you have learned from your Mormon neighbours and > have adapted to veg*n! Right now, it's mostly the obvious of canning and dehydrating and rehydrating vegetables for soups, but I'm still " new to the area " (after ten years here! Good people, but slow to take to outsiders.) and I'm only just starting to get accepted and hope to learn more as time goes on. > I can't imagine planning > for a disaster that would require stocking up > supplies of food enough for two years, but > perhaps your neighbours know something I don't or > are following an old tradition. It's an old tradition from what I can gather. Mormons were hated wherever they went, which is why they ended up out here: hardly any other white people were out this far back then. It's a culture that learned to rely on itself and that's where the stocking up comes from. And it's not just food - they stock two years of toilet paper and clothes in the sizes the children will be. > And it would be > very generous indeed if they would be kind enough > to share them with you and, through you, with us You guys will be the first to know about anything unusual, innovative or counter-intuitive I learn! I do know that I'm impressed enough by it that, when my income goes up so that I can do it, I'm planning to start buying extras of things. I think a six-month stockpile is enough for me, though - long enough to last the winter if the roads get snowed in. :-) Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 > but I'm still > " new to the area " > (after ten years here! Good people, but slow to > take to outsiders.) Sounds like where we live - and we only came here 8 years ago - without the excuse of religious persecution! Hang in there!!! About your Mormon neighbours' stockpiling of goods: > I do know that > I'm impressed enough by > it that, when my income goes up so that I can > do it, I'm planning to > start buying extras of things. I think a > six-month stockpile is enough > for me, though - long enough to last the winter > if the roads get > snowed in. :-) DO roads still get snowed in for 6 months? Could be in some places. In our childhood, yes - or at least for a few months.) Still, both my dh and I find ourselves buying more things in the winter, 'in case the weather turns bad' - even though we live in a highrise in a city and have a convenience store right downstairs! LOL Mind you, preparing food in the fall for use when it's not so readily (or inexpensively) available is good sense if you have the resources to do it and the space to store it. Love and hugs, Pat ---- Vegetarian Spice: http://beanvegan.blogspot.com Vegan World Cuisine: http://www.care2.com/c2cvegworld Vegetarian Slimming: vegetarianslimming Vegetarians In Canada: vegetariansincanada " Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and are called medical research. " (George Bernard Shaw) ______________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 i have an old dehydrator that mom had. after graduation and i have a " normal " life, i am gonna dig it out and this summer will get back into canning / freezing. my income will be higher and my schedule will be more " normal. " , Pat <drpatsant wrote: > > > > but I'm still > > " new to the area " > > (after ten years here! Good people, but slow to > > take to outsiders.) > > Sounds like where we live - and we only came here > 8 years ago - without the excuse of religious > persecution! Hang in there!!! > > About your Mormon neighbours' stockpiling of > goods: > > > I do know that > > I'm impressed enough by > > it that, when my income goes up so that I can > > do it, I'm planning to > > start buying extras of things. I think a > > six-month stockpile is enough > > for me, though - long enough to last the winter > > if the roads get > > snowed in. :-) > > DO roads still get snowed in for 6 months? Could > be in some places. In our childhood, yes - or at > least for a few months.) Still, both my dh and I > find ourselves buying more things in the winter, > 'in case the weather turns bad' - even though we > live in a highrise in a city and have a > convenience store right downstairs! LOL Mind > you, preparing food in the fall for use when it's > not so readily (or inexpensively) available is > good sense if you have the resources to do it and > the space to store it. > > Love and hugs, Pat > > ---- > Vegetarian Spice: > http://beanvegan.blogspot.com > Vegan World Cuisine: http://www.care2.com/c2cvegworld > Vegetarian Slimming: vegetarianslimming > Vegetarians In Canada: vegetariansincanada > " Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and are called medical research. " (George Bernard Shaw) > > > ____________________ ______________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 On 1/11/08, Pat <drpatsant wrote: > > > Sounds like where we live - and we only came here > 8 years ago - without the excuse of religious > persecution! Hang in there!!! Oh, no, no, no, these are good people. This is not religious persecution! I would never say that! It's more like this: you know how you have your closest friends that you've known for years and year? And then someone new shows up on the scene and you like them and they are interesting, but when you want to do something fun, you call those old friends you've always known. And when there are two parties on the same night, you're more likely to go to the one with the friends you've known for years. That's not " friend persecution " , right? Similarly, this isn't religious persecution - these folks go to the same church several times a week, volunteer together in the same organizations, have gone to school together all their lives. They have their groove going and their lives are full already. They're good people, but they're already busy with each other all the time and it takes a while for an outsider to get anywhere into the circle, especially when that outsider isn't going to all the weekly activities that everyone else is. > DO roads still get snowed in for 6 months? Could > be in some places. When I finish grad school and the husband and I move out of town onto our own land, yes, there may be times when the roads are impassable. Not for six months at a stretch, but easily for a week. When I lived in Nevada, we were snowed in for a full month before the roads were cleared. They had to send helicopters in to drop supplies. And my aunt, who lives in Indiana, had an unplanned homebirth about fifteen years ago because the roads were impassable. It happens, and it's best, if possible, to be prepared with enough food to last it out. Especially enough food that doesn't require electricity, in case the power goes out as well. > Still, both my dh and I > find ourselves buying more things in the winter, > 'in case the weather turns bad' - even though we > live in a highrise in a city and have a > convenience store right downstairs! LOL Even then. I lived in a city of about a million people when a blizzard hit and I couldn't get food because the store had been stripped bare by the time I got there. It stands out vividly in my mind because I was seven months pregnant at the time and out of food! I sometimes wonder how much my life experiences affect my eating patterns now. I spent a good amount of time homeless and eating out of dumpsters in my twenties. There were two specific occasions I remember during my pregnancy (the other when I was about 4 and a half months along) when there was no food for several days. I wonder if that's part of why I have a bad relationship with food - the little voice in my head warning me to eat up everything in sight because no one knows if there will be any food tomorrow. If that's the case, I need to learn how to re-train that voice to say something different. Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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