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> Oh, no, no, no, these are good people. This is

> not religious

> persecution! I would never say that!

 

No no - I didn't mean to suggest that YOU were

being persecuted. I was referring to the

historical persecution of Mormons by non-Mormons.

My thoughts were that such persecuted minorities

do tend to be a little cautious about newcomers

to their community. My reference to how things

are here was light-hearted, tongue-in-cheek. I

meant that it also takes a long time to become

part of the community here, BUT (to my knowledge)

there was no religious persecution in the past

that might explain such caution :) (Actually,

this is still proudly a small town at heart, and

that provides its own explanation.)

 

> They're good

> people, but they're already busy with each

> other all the time and it

> takes a while for an outsider to get anywhere

> into the circle,

> especially when that outsider isn't going to

> all the weekly activities

> that everyone else is.

 

Where I lived as a child the village people

referred to anyone who hadn't been brought up

there as 'foreigners' - and you could live there

40 years or more, as one man we knew did, and

still be a 'foreigner' :) We thought it was

amusing and didn't worry about it.

 

> I sometimes wonder how much my life experiences

> affect my eating

> patterns now. I spent a good amount of time

> homeless and eating out of

> dumpsters in my twenties. There were two

> specific occasions I remember

> during my pregnancy (the other when I was about

> 4 and a half months

> along) when there was no food for several days.

 

Sorry to hear that, hon. That would indeed scar

many people. I think recognizing the problem

helps, but only if you also recognize that it is

an old habit of thought that you need to 'kick' -

as indeed you do.

 

Okay, good idea! Given your experiences of hunger

and of being snowed in, I'd recommend some

serious canning and freezing and dehydrating etc!

Then you can feel secure, right? Can't have you

taking to the roads on cross-country skis or

snowshoes (or doing what so many used to do,

walking along the railway tracks) to buy

groceries! We've been snowed in too - elsewhere -

and were truly grateful of a full pantry.

 

Which brings us back to dehydrators and all that!

 

Love and hugs, Pat

 

 

 

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On 1/12/08, Pat <drpatsant wrote:

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> > Oh, no, no, no, these are good people. This is

> > not religious

> > persecution! I would never say that!

>

> No no - I didn't mean to suggest that YOU were

> being persecuted. I was referring to the

> historical persecution of Mormons by non-Mormons.

 

Oh! Okay. *d'oh* Sorry about the misunderstanding. I do agree with you.

 

> Where I lived as a child the village people

> referred to anyone who hadn't been brought up

> there as 'foreigners' - and you could live there

> 40 years or more, as one man we knew did, and

> still be a 'foreigner' :) We thought it was

> amusing and didn't worry about it.

 

When I lived in Vermont, you were an " outsider " until such time that

your *family* had lived there since at least your great-grandparents!

LOL

 

> > I sometimes wonder how much my life experiences

> > affect my eating

> > patterns now.

 

> Sorry to hear that, hon. That would indeed scar

> many people. I think recognizing the problem

> helps, but only if you also recognize that it is

> an old habit of thought that you need to 'kick' -

> as indeed you do.

 

As G.I. Joe says, " knowing is half the battle. " The trick comes with

the other half - how to " re-program the wetware. " To bring it back

on-topic, maybe there is something I can learn from how people who

weren't born into it come to vegetarianism. Some come after learning

health statistics. Others come after watching a movie such as " Meet

Your Meat " that shocks them into compassion. I guess I need to figure

out what *my* " Meet Your Meat " (figuratively speaking) is that would

" shock " me back to a more realistic relationship with food.

 

Sparrow

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